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"Context is everything" is not a vibe.
If I call a mate a dozy old cunt when we are messing around - it's fine. Should I call a copper a dozy old cunt - the consequences would be different.
Likewise. Would I use the "N" word as term of abuse - never. Have I used the "N" word with friends who are black, that I've known for years (I'm brown btw). Yes - I have. And for clarity - my friends come round as greet me with the Denzil Washington line "my ni**a" - to which i reply the same way.
If we were playing football - I wouldn't call any of them that on the pitch, nor the opposition.
"...and my inch is like a freight train, so I only use it in self defence"
Fair points. I think sexism is taken more seriously now than was 8 years ago or so when this happened. With the female ‘linesmen’ promotion of women’s football by the FA BBC etc. Society and therefore authorities deem racism worse and more of a no go. In same way Jimmy Carr or Frankie Boyle mock women, people with disabilities including downs, religion, paedo priests etc but they stay clear of mocking skin colour. Although all these along with age, sexual orientation etc are protected under the same legislation.
As for France not sure what their laws say the Equality Act 2010 is UK not EU legislation.
I think Cavani will get a ban for it probably a few games like Silva did.
As for Evra he is a sandwich short of a picnic you only have to watch him as a pundit he is imo a complete arsehole and there is various things to back it up 1.fighting his own fans 2.leading France team on strike 3.Appearing on a rap song using the N word more than once.
As for Suarez GREAT player but on the pitch he isnt a nice chap we saw this whilst playing for us and how he behaved playing against us in thr CL.
Heres the wikipedia page on the uk.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_Sheep
True, are you on about something specifically?
In a heated game where 2 opponents of rival clubs are shouting at each other, wouldn't it be reasonably inferred that neither are being affectionate, polite, respectful in a conventional sense, yet respectful to the/that game itself.
Not read that book. The book is only one input, lots more at play.
Guessing its age appropriate
At a wild guess, first one seems a bit more girly, second one more funny
Black history month and neither refer to the word black people
I don't think it's officially changed much but i've heard loads of reports in schools etc they don't use it anymore / a slight modification.
Either way it's mad like the context of "faggot" in fairytale of new york.... radio1 muting it out!
some people think just saying "black" is racist these days!!
Disclaimer **** I hate any form of hate, but I know the difference between hate and no hate... if that makes sense
I personally think it's mad if cavani get's a longish ban at all, obviously just shared it not thinking much of it, and a way of saying thanks kinda (hence sharing it)!
Never really heard of the word before, it's more of a foreign word? IDK
Let's face it, only people that care is the FA any sane person would know it wasn't harmful / aimed to be harmful in any way
Last edited by Kev0909; 30th November 2020 at 08:05 PM.
It is a fascinating debate, surely it can only be racist if it's intended to be racist, and not perceived to be racist ? but who decides ?
Around 5 years ago i was a foreman for a gang of 20 men who travelled around England for 3 years, refurbishing Prudential insurance offices, 2 of the lads never got on, at all, so we tried to keep them apart, as much as possible, any way one day a massive row broke out, the shouting could be heard 2 floors below, i got up there to see Dennis (who was of Jamaican descent) being held back from Geoff, who was, shall we say was more than a little over weight, it turns out Geoff called Dennis a black bastard, and it was heard by someone other than us that worked for the company, so i tried to get to the bottom of it and get all the details, as i knew it would be going further.
I asked everyone who was in earshot, it turns Dennis called Geoff a fat c**t, the up shot being, that at the HR meeting i had to attend, they decided that being called a fat C**t was no provocation for using racist language, and Geoff was sacked ! to this day i'm not sure that was the right outcome, in fact right after the incident, Geoff was much more angry than Dennis.
Getting there.
@Philfatkid
Unfortunately we live in a world where it's ok to be openly abusive towards/discriminate against certain types of people, but completely unacceptable to even say or do anything that could be perceived as doing the same towards certain other groups.
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