Different gravy from the Arse last night. Never seen a so called big club shut up so quickly! Big Sam and The Owl would have been proud.
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Different gravy from the Arse last night. Never seen a so called big club shut up so quickly! Big Sam and The Owl would have been proud.
Something, Something, Something, Dark Side
We could well end up with 80-90(ish) pts this season.
Which would make our last 4 season's points totals 97, 99, 69 and 85(ish). Which is the outlier season in that run?
We've been beaten twice all season and we're still in all 3 cup competitions. We've just pissed the so called 'group of death' in the Champions League. Yet the majority of the forum want to tear it all down and start again.
We've gone through every player in the squad not being good enough at some point over the last few years. The manager getting pelters for not changing the way he plays etc.
Have we become a little entitled over the last few years?
Something, Something, Something, Dark Side
It's interesting how the vocal critics turn on the owners when things aren't going to plan and credit the manager when they are going well. Also people have different takes on things based on their own personalities and biases;
Nineteenx says that the problem is that the owners don't understand football as they are American. He also seems to think Klopp doesn't understand football as well as he does.
Steveo attributes the deficiency to the owners running the club as a business, as if that was self-evidently a corruption. He prefers the oligarchs who 'love' football and who treat the club to their own charity. That seems to be the only way forward for him. The fact that they have to be business minded elsewhere to raise the funds is no slight on them it seems. The other fact that their wealth is stolen from the rightful inheritors of the oil and gas resources and then frittered away on over-paid prima donnas in a foreign country doesn't register as a criticism with him either.
He also joins in the more common cynicism induldged in by Kev and a few others that the Yanks are just stealing and pilfering our wealth, in the form of the club as a resource which they consistently drain and run down.
This is a season where we could still win the EFL cup, the FA cup, the Champions league and the League itself and yet we are already holding a moratorium. That doesn't seem like support to me. Plus, the only teams that could really beat us to those titles are the oligarch clubs, who everyone else hates for their unjust distortion of footballing resources. Yet it's all the Yanks fault.
All good points. I don't think we've become entitled though, I think most are just annoyed at the lack of squad bolstering which is undoubtedly required. We are involved in those competitions but personally I'd say we are unlikely to win any aside from the EFL.
The title us all but gone but very few of any expected us to win it.
Theres just a few elements that have now become issues that are dogging us but they have been that way for some time now, especially the issues with midfield. If there had been some form of movement on that in the last 3 years we could argue but there hasn't aside from Thiago and to say he's been a disappointment is an understatement.
Entitled? Why not? 3 decades of not being able to compete on a regular basis. We’ve tasted success and it’s beautiful. Why would any fan want to only compete for a top four place and not relive days of old when we were always in contention for a trophy or too?
We have a chance to compete on all front if we invest properly in the squad whilst we have a decent manager at the helm, yet we choose to accept mediocrity and fighting for a top four finish.
Let’s be honest, our games this season, bar a few, we’ve been lucky to win. We’ve not held on when winning, but that seems ok for some.
Everyone has to take blame, from the top down to the the dinner ladies in my opinion.
You’re kidding yourself if you think our squad is good enough and it pisses me off when other fans act like “top reds” and state we’re not backing the team/manager.
Jozza, stop living in the past mate. We’ve chalked this season already. I’m personally talking about our future, ageing players, and a lack of quality.
Someone mentioned Tsimikas, you do realise he was bought a while back and didn’t play for us at all and just a back up. (Great back up in my opinion)
Salah will probably leave due to a lack of ambition from the club taking us forward wanting to win everything they can.
I think getting our knickers In a twist over a 0-0 first leg semi final, is a bit much .
Chill the fuck out lads !!
It's the carling bloody cup.
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