Thread: Liverpool transfers in/out and rumours 22/23 + Contracts

  1. #6571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev0909 View Post
    At the risk of sounding sexist......

    Jeeze it's annoying these days why can't they seperate women football and mans football? different website for skysports etc? or at least not the same in the transfer bit....... who gives a fuck about chelsea or whoever signing someone in womens football for 100k fuck off.
    Not separating them ensures more clicks/engagement which is something they want to push.

    "Liverpool linked with striker" might get your click, versus "Liverpool Ladies linked with striker" - and they know that.

    Unlikely to change so I would get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    Looks quite a player.


    Italian publication La Gazzetta dello Sport - via FourFourTwo - have recently revealed that Liverpool are targeting Atalanta midfielder Teun Koopmeiners and are ready to bid a sum of £40m to secure his services.
    Left-footed and likes a longer ball - it would be interesting to see the pairing of him and Trent in possession when Trent inverts - cross-field diagonals would be available both ways, plus Mac Allister could be freed up to play further up the pitch in some matches and rotate with Jones.

    Doesn't seem beyond the realms of possibility that we would be genuinely interested - especially as he is 25 and thus has plenty left in the tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    Looks quite a player.


    Italian publication La Gazzetta dello Sport - via FourFourTwo - have recently revealed that Liverpool are targeting Atalanta midfielder Teun Koopmeiners and are ready to bid a sum of £40m to secure his services.
    Makes me wonder if we're getting rid of a midfielder if we get another in

    we have many options when all fit.

    I know thiago is going but I don't count him.

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    We were limited with Koopmeiners last season and in summer. He ticks a lot of boxes, plenty of league experience and at international level. Defo seems like a Klopp/FSG type signing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev0909 View Post
    Makes me wonder if we're getting rid of a midfielder if we get another in

    we have many options when all fit.

    I know thiago is going but I don't count him.
    The club might though - depends if they look at it from a footballing availability perspective, a use-of-funds perspective, or a bit of both.

    Plus if Thiago were to leave, Endo would be our over-30 quota midfielder. Sometimes it is good to have a replacement of sorts at a club before a departure occurs. To my mind Wijnaldum's "replacement" was a combo of Thiago plus some other players chipping in to pick up on minutes Thiago couldn't fill - now Wijnaldum has largely been "replaced" by Jones - having a player in the squad a couple of years ahead of an eventual Endo departure would be no bad thing.

    The other perspective is the opportunity it might mean for someone getting less minutes - perhaps a top midfielder coming in would facilitate a loan for someone else where they get really good game time - Bajcetic for example - and then by the time 25/26 comes around he's close to being a really well-developed player (like Jones currently) rather than an exciting prospect.
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    A look at transfer wheeling and dealing, some surprises, some not.

    Have Everton really lost more money than us in transfer deals?


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68074110

    Barcelona, Chelsea and Arsenal lost the most money through player transfers in world football over the last decade, new research shows.

    The CIES Football Observatory looked at non-academy players signed and sold from 2014 to 2023.

    La Liga giants Barcelona generated the highest loss of 631m euros (£540m), while Ligue 1 side Lille made the most profit - 386m euros (£330m).

    Six Premier League clubs feature in the top 10 for losses.

    After Chelsea and Arsenal in second and third respectively, Manchester United are fifth, Aston Villa seventh, Everton eighth and Liverpool ninth.

    The research lists the top 50 clubs for both losses and profit, with Brentford (26th) and Brighton (29th) the two Premier League sides in the top 50 for profit.

    Despite Stoke City not having been in the Premier League for six years, they remain among those making the highest losses over the period of time looked at by the researchers, sitting in 16th.

    The research shows significant losses are often a result of big signings leaving for much less than the club originally bought them for, while the report also cites players who contributed to these losses.

    Clubs from the Chinese Super League feature prominently in the top 50 for losses, with Saudi Arabian teams Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal, Al-Ahli and Al-Ittihad also included after high spending last summer, when the likes of Brazil captain Neymar and Real Madrid forward Karim Benzema joined the Saudi Pro League.

    Barcelona spent over 1.2bn euros (£1bn) and received 613m euros (£524m), with the report citing the deal for Philippe Coutinho, who signed from Liverpool for £142m in 2018 before leaving for Aston Villa for £17m. He has since joined Al-Duhail on loan.

    Barcelona also signed Ousmane Dembele for £135.5m before he was sold for £43.5m last summer to Paris St-Germain.

    Chelsea lost 482m euros (£413m) after signing players like Christian Pulisic for £58m in 2019, before selling him to AC Milan for £20m last year. Jorginho signed for £50m in 2018 but was then sold for £12m to Arsenal.

    They also spent about 1.2bn euros (£1bn), including signing both Moises Caicedo and Enzo Fernandez for over £100m, and received 730m euros (£624m) in sales.

    Arsenal lost 436m euros (£373m) after signing players such as Nicolas Pepe for £72m, before he left after four years on a free transfer to Trabzonspor.

    Manchester City - losses of 59m euros (£51m) and Bayern Munich - losses of 61m euros (£52m) - "have the best balances among the most competitive teams" the report said.

    Lille gained 386m euros (£330m) in profits following the sales of players such as striker Victor Osimhen, who they signed for £10m and then sold to Napoli for £82m.

    Sven Botman joined Newcastle United for a fee of £32m from Lille, who signed him in 2020 for £7.2m.

    Ajax were close behind Lille with player trades showing a positive balance of 317m euros (£271m).

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    Into the last week of the transfer window but not expecting any signings. Just read on the BBC that Liverpool FC "have strength in depth, making 191 changes to their starting 11 in all competitions this season, 56 more than any other Premier League club."

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    Man-city dont make losses.. remember a coupla years back when they claimed they had like 700m income in that year or 2?? dunno where that came from. cheating shits
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    Liverpool have joined Manchester City in the race to sign Germany midfielder Joshua Kimmich, 28, from Bayern Munich. (Bild - in German)

    Could be a bit of experience to replace Thiago?. saying that who knows what are targets are..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffydd View Post
    A look at transfer wheeling and dealing, some surprises, some not.

    Have Everton really lost more money than us in transfer deals?


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68074110

    Barcelona, Chelsea and Arsenal lost the most money through player transfers in world football over the last decade, new research shows.

    The CIES Football Observatory looked at non-academy players signed and sold from 2014 to 2023.

    La Liga giants Barcelona generated the highest loss of 631m euros (£540m), while Ligue 1 side Lille made the most profit - 386m euros (£330m).

    Six Premier League clubs feature in the top 10 for losses.

    After Chelsea and Arsenal in second and third respectively, Manchester United are fifth, Aston Villa seventh, Everton eighth and Liverpool ninth.

    The research lists the top 50 clubs for both losses and profit, with Brentford (26th) and Brighton (29th) the two Premier League sides in the top 50 for profit.

    Despite Stoke City not having been in the Premier League for six years, they remain among those making the highest losses over the period of time looked at by the researchers, sitting in 16th.

    The research shows significant losses are often a result of big signings leaving for much less than the club originally bought them for, while the report also cites players who contributed to these losses.

    Clubs from the Chinese Super League feature prominently in the top 50 for losses, with Saudi Arabian teams Al-Nassr, Al-Hilal, Al-Ahli and Al-Ittihad also included after high spending last summer, when the likes of Brazil captain Neymar and Real Madrid forward Karim Benzema joined the Saudi Pro League.

    Barcelona spent over 1.2bn euros (£1bn) and received 613m euros (£524m), with the report citing the deal for Philippe Coutinho, who signed from Liverpool for £142m in 2018 before leaving for Aston Villa for £17m. He has since joined Al-Duhail on loan.

    Barcelona also signed Ousmane Dembele for £135.5m before he was sold for £43.5m last summer to Paris St-Germain.

    Chelsea lost 482m euros (£413m) after signing players like Christian Pulisic for £58m in 2019, before selling him to AC Milan for £20m last year. Jorginho signed for £50m in 2018 but was then sold for £12m to Arsenal.

    They also spent about 1.2bn euros (£1bn), including signing both Moises Caicedo and Enzo Fernandez for over £100m, and received 730m euros (£624m) in sales.

    Arsenal lost 436m euros (£373m) after signing players such as Nicolas Pepe for £72m, before he left after four years on a free transfer to Trabzonspor.

    Manchester City - losses of 59m euros (£51m) and Bayern Munich - losses of 61m euros (£52m) - "have the best balances among the most competitive teams" the report said.

    Lille gained 386m euros (£330m) in profits following the sales of players such as striker Victor Osimhen, who they signed for £10m and then sold to Napoli for £82m.

    Sven Botman joined Newcastle United for a fee of £32m from Lille, who signed him in 2020 for £7.2m.

    Ajax were close behind Lille with player trades showing a positive balance of 317m euros (£271m).
    What in the holy fuck are you posting here !

    You must have some faith in the BbC and CiEs to post them numbers.

    I mean I've not read the article, but I've seen it posit that Mancity ran a net spending loss of 61m euros over the last decade on player transfers.

    From my own thread:

    LFC
    ● Earnt €800 mill from player sales valued at €1,315 mill.
    Recouping 61% of their value
    ● Spent €1,298 mill on €1,591 mill of players.
    For €1 spent, we signed €1.23 euros of player.
    ● for our net spend of €498 mill - our net gain in MV was €276m
    55% effective by MV

    Manc
    ● Earnt €798 mill from player sales valued at €1,683mill.
    Recouping 47% of their value
    ● Spent €1,974 mill on €2,220 mill of players.
    For €1 spent, they signed €1.12 euros of player.
    ● for their net spend of €1,176 mill - their net gain in MV was €537 m
    46% effective by MV

    https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?310133-Top6-spends-analysed-by-MV-13-14-onwards&p=2815830#post2815830

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