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[Steveo]

The first year they did it was Klopps only fail season at LFC. He retired the next season.
Even out the underhand decisions last year in the PL and we're finishing above them. You're the one saying Arteta has overtaken us.

They finished above us twice in succession - you excuse making truth twisting reality denier.

They were nowhere - the wise folks on here laughing at Lego man and Arsenal and something changed - regardless of your inability to accept the truth.

Here’s your list. Read it and then go argue with it in the corner

https://www.football365.com/news/biggest-net-spend-21st-century-chelsea-man-utd-man-city-arsenal

[CCTV]

They finished above us twice in succession - you excuse making truth twisting reality denier.

They were nowhere - the wise folks on here laughing at Lego man and Arsenal and something changed - regardless of your inability to accept the truth.

Here’s your list. Read it and then go argue with it in the corner

https://www.football365.com/news/biggest-net-spend-21st-century-chelsea-man-utd-man-city-arsenal

I've argued this before, you're simply incapable of holding up your end. You like to leave an argument, then return at stage 1 again as if nothing happened. Incapable of recalling the record.

[Insidious]

Man Utd were a little unlucky, they hit the post and were still in it until the sending off, which some would say was harsh (we've seen them not given) and injuries and lack of signings and whatnot.

Didn't see the game so can't speak to their "luck" (or lack of) today, but claiming 19 points from your last 15 League games is piss-poor, especially when Everton have managed 21 points.

[Steveo]

I've argued this before, you're simply incapable of holding up your end. You like to leave an argument, then return at stage 1 again as if nothing happened. Incapable of recalling the record.

I have no end to hold up. This is the problem. You deny truth and argue with reality then spout the usual baloney.

Here is Arsenal’s Change and their fan base is clear on what happened.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-owner-stan-kroenkes-staggering-28340891?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_mediu m=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

However, it is now hard to argue that the Kroenke's are not putting their all into trying to rebuild the club.

They abandoned the self-sustaining model and have been splashing out during the last few transfer windows - with their spending in the summer of 2021 the highest in the Premier League.

"If you look at how other teams have done it and where we were, there is a transition moment where that (curve) has to change at some stage," said Arteta this July during a media appearance at Universal Studios.

"Look where we are investing the money — we are not spending the money, we have made big investments — but investment for the future with huge talent and a lot of performance.

[Steveo]

CCTV there is nothing to debate. You try to use the reckless spending of desperados like United and latterly Boehly’s Chelsea as evidence that a high net spend is bad when the overwhelming evidence points to the contrary.

Look at the teams in the top 5 net spend table since 2000 and count up what they have won.

You then will have a definitive answer. At least you will IF you can handle the truth.

[Daffydd]

Didn't see the game so can't speak to their "luck" (or lack of) today, but claiming 19 points from your last 15 League games is piss-poor, especially when Everton have managed 21 points.

You make a good case for Sean Dyche getting the Man Utd job!

[teesred]

United we're not unlucky in my opinion. They were abysmal and Spurs were very good.

[Creator Supremes]

Wonder how Jurgen would've got on if he'd exited the domestic cups early rounds like Arteta has during these title challenges.

[CCTV]

CCTV there is nothing to debate. You try to use the reckless spending of desperados like United and latterly Boehly’s Chelsea as evidence that a high net spend is bad when the overwhelming evidence points to the contrary.

Look at the teams in the top 5 net spend table since 2000 and count up what they have won.

You then will have a definitive answer. At least you will IF you can handle the truth.

I've analysed stats, including links youve posted, on gross spend since 2000 across Europe (you'd posted a top euro gross spend), gross & net since FSG took over.

When I pointed to us spending more than Real net since FSG took over, you replied Unique Madrid were incomparable...
You then returned with gross spend since 2000 between Unique Madrid & Liverpool. #comparable and here's why, from you.
I pointed out we'd outspend Real on gross since FSG took over. You then said Unique Mardid were incomparable, again...

Here's a thread I posted after this on analysis net spend v market values. Focused solely on the PL top6.
https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?310133-Top6-spends-analysed-by-MV-13-14-onwards&highlight=Top6%20net%20spend&p=2815830#pos t2815830

I'll post this reply there as a bump for replies on the topic. I've admitted where further analysis could yield better insight
But maybe you should make your case, in your own words, coherently

For me it's quite simple, the big clubs spend the big money. Klopp spent 946 million gross, a billion gross essentially.
The PL is socialist compared with la liga dividends. TV revenue hinders LFC, Manu, even Arsenal. Only Brighton & Ipswich outspent United net this summer...

Well run clubs, spend less net compared with their rivals. Real the prime example since 2011 by my analysis as I recall. Having to spend is inevitable.

[Steveo]

Since 2011. Let’s forget everything since 1950 - you are a funny fella CC.. So Real are still top 5 net spenders since 2000 despite being so frugal since 2011… Hmm what could have happened… And that’s before we actually face the fact - it’s Real - I will run my contract down and take a pay cut - Madrid 😜

I answered you in more detail on the other thread