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  1. #41
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    there was that case last season where one ref didn't allow the play to go on after a foul and Grealish was almost through on goal (he wouldn't have scored mind) that was the time, where all the Man-city players surrounded the ref and Haaland went like the hulk. Scary face, scared me anyway.. Other than that. NOPE cant think of 1 single incident Man-city have had any mistakes against them.. In fact. they've had several go in their favour. Like when Aka scored from an offside situation.. one where Haaland was dragged back in the box where he initiated the contact seconds earlier. And the VITAL call last season near the end. When we would have gone above them in the league.. But we were denied a penalty on Alexis Mac Allister by Doku..only seconds left in the game as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    Agree.
    He's technically done nothing wrong,he's expressed an opinion on someone. It comes a complete disgrace to some fans that Klopp wasn't universally loved by all.
    There have been decisions he's been involved with that can be questionable but every fan of every club could have a list as long as their arm about things they feel hard done by. Liverpool are not exclusive to it but some people think they are.

    This situation is totally indicative of the toxic social media world we live in. Somebody has to lose their livelihood or career, the governing body or whoever it is have to be seen to make an example of someone. Regardless of wether he hates Liverpool or not he's a person with a family and a life.
    It's a fucking awful way to think, to want a person to suffer and to drag them through the mud in public. I personally find it horrid.
    He should have to serve some form of punishment to show that the behaviour isn't accepted. Saying what he said does bring the reputation of the refs into question. Refs are a group that meet regularly and will discuss teams, players and managers. I think there will always be some form of inherent bias, but that's human nature.

    He deserves a punishment. Drop him down to championship level for a year or 2 and if he performs bring him back up.

    There are refs that were found guilty of match fixing (not in England) that are back reffing again after serving a punishment.

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    I'm not going to research every team in the league and their grievances with referees. What do you think this is? If you want that info then go back and watch the matches yourselves.

    What I can guarantee is that over the course of a season, virtually every manager in every league will have had a go at refs for something or other. Every manager and fan can point to decisions that went against them. How could it be any other way? Refs get some decisions wrong. I just don't buy the whining that they deliberately get more wrong for us than they do for other teams.
    VOTE JOCKY tae fix this fiasco.

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    Its back from the wilderness
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockStrap View Post
    I just don't buy the whining that they deliberately get more wrong for us than they do for other teams.
    In fact Danny Murphy said that in 20 years of playing professional football, he never once doubted that the ref was trying to do the best job he could.

    Let’s see what the defender of all things stupid thinks of that.
    VOTE JOCKY tae fix this fiasco.

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    Just hope all this crap doesn't derail our season. This what most anti LFC people want. Like i said previously refs will gang together now.. (they did anyway) but lets see if they have an ounce of integrity and treat us properly. I have my doubts
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    yipee can finally login again (Wiped PC forgot login details as was years ago) went through 50 passwords and I got there eventually, reset password doesn't work btw folks so don't forget details, as you can't even register now. (Email to reset does not send)

    Doubt he'll ref again in the prem, or at least for a while and never in any LFC games.

    he must have pissed off whoever recorded it, looks drunk to me, we all say shit when drunk, probably was doing it for a laugh, not looking into the mistakes too much, in our games, all ref makes mistakes.... noone is perfect.

    I'm sure the conspiracy theorists are loving this
    #FSGOUT

    we are liverpool football club, not fucking norwich.

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    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18NmuT5oSV/

    Don't know if anyone can see this.
    It's from Fields of Anfield Road and gives an unbiased view.

    It's been a couple of days since news broke of David Coote's video. I'd imagine fans everywhere will be following this to see how it plays out. Ignore football fans tribalism and rivalry, this situation is important for all fans.

    Opinion is divided as to whether his dislike for Liverpool and Jurgen Klopp influenced any of his decisions. No surprise that the referees in the media have said it wouldn't "as he is a professional." Is that right? He didn't come across very professional in the video did he.

    I've been saying for years that on occasions it seems that referees may make their "preferred option" decisions as when you look at some of the mind boggling decisions they make (not only affecting LFC), it's hard to see how this couldn't be a possibility.

    Of course the counter argument to this possibility is that "they do make mistakes as they are only human." If that is to be relied upon, then isn't it feasible that the "they're only human" standpoint could also apply in a split second in making a key decision when their human emotions takeover their so called detached professionalism?

    After all, it didn't take much for Mr Coote to show his dislike for Liverpool away from the emotion and tension of a packed and noisy football stadium. Just imagine what his "he's only human" mindset could be in the pressure cooker of a match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    Whilst I think he should be removed on merit for his performances. I find this a little unsavoury in how he's removed. I suspect he's done.

    How to put it, removed for words not performance.
    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    Agree.
    He's technically done nothing wrong,he's expressed an opinion on someone. It comes a complete disgrace to some fans that Klopp wasn't universally loved by all.
    There have been decisions he's been involved with that can be questionable but every fan of every club could have a list as long as their arm about things they feel hard done by. Liverpool are not exclusive to it but some people think they are.

    This situation is totally indicative of the toxic social media world we live in. Somebody has to lose their livelihood or career, the governing body or whoever it is have to be seen to make an example of someone. Regardless of wether he hates Liverpool or not he's a person with a family and a life.
    It's a fucking awful way to think, to want a person to suffer and to drag them through the mud in public. I personally find it horrid.
    Agree with you in part.

    The analysis of VAR-errors.. clearly shows we've been impacted negatively in previous seasons. Ask 19 for the media links

    Whilst cituae have benefited and Referees get comped refereeing games in their nation, the UAE.

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    https://liverpooloffside.sbnation.com/2023/10/1/23898401/premier-league-officials-lucrative-uae-jobs-conflict-interest-bribery-corruption-liverpool-spurs

    A decent enough summary on a conflict of interest.

    A crisis of confidence is growing around Premier League officials and the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) this weekend after a VAR error in Saturday’s game between Liverpool and Tottenham that has been described by pundits as the nadir of officiating in England since VAR was introduced.

    Unlike most controversies surrounding officiating, there is no room here to argue about subjectivity and interpretation. Here, a breakdown in communication between the VAR officials and on-pitch officials was caused, it has been claimed, when lead VAR official Darren England believed a goal by Liverpool’s Luis Diaz had been given.

    Instead, it had been flagged offside. As a result, England—watched by at least three other people in the VAR room—sent a “check complete” message confirming a good goal and then did nothing to correct the error with on-pitch referee Simon Hooper believing his team’s offside ruling had been confirmed and restarting play.

    Matters were made worse for the PGMOL and chief Howard Webb when it emerged England and assistant Dan Cook had been in UAE on Thursday to oversee a Pro League game, a duty for which they will have reportedly been paid £15-20k. Tiredness from the trip has been proposed by some as a contributing cause in Saturday’s error.

    There is no suggestion that Premier League officials, including England and Cook, were given directions to officiate in a manner that might benefit Manchester City, but with both City and the Pro League intimately tied to the UAE’s ruling elites the optics are far from good and at best there is a clear conflict of interest.

    Thursday’s officiating work in UAE for England and Cook wasn’t a one-off, with many fans learning for the first time over the past 24 hours that English officials regularly travel to take on lucrative work in UAE—and potentially other states in the region—and that clearance to take these jobs is signed off on by Webb’s PGMOL.

    The resultant situation means Premier League officials could regularly be earning six-figure salaries for side-jobs in the region—at times potentially making more for than for their domestic refereeing duties—before returning and being expected to impartially judge matches impacting clubs owned by the states paying them.

    Even if there’s no actively nefarious intent on the side of any of the involved parties that crosses into the realm of active bribery and corruption, there’s a clear conflict of interest in regularly being paid large sums of money by the UAE and then being put in charge of owning a club widely understood as being owned by the UAE.

    And in real world in any case, bribery and corruption rarely involves handing over stacks of cash along with explicit marching orders. Far more common is the soft power approach, a steady drip of gifts and favour and well paying consultancy gigs over time meant to instil loyalty and shift unconscious bias in a favourable direction.

    Nobody may be able to say precisely what England, Cook, and other English officials have received—monetarily or otherwise—this week or this year or over the past ten years from taking on work in UAE. Nobody may be able to say precisely what the motivations may have been for the UAE Pro League to offer them such work.

    What can be said unequivocally is that the optics aren’t good. What can be said is that it’s a situation with the potential to undermine of the impartiality of English officials. And it can be said that it’s the fault of the PGMOL for signing off on such work and creating a situation filled with uncertainty and ripe for conspiracy theorizing.

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