Match Thread: Liverpool vs Crystal Palace Carabao Cup

[RedMagic]

There is a well know saying that goes "there are lies, damned lies, and statistics". I've recently mentioned that saying to a journalist who reports on our club. He tried to say that things aren't all bad using some kind of stat, something along the lines of us having had a certain percentage of our passess being classified as 'progressive'.

Another phrase "clutching at straws" comes to mind.

[CCTV]

There's also a saying, muddying the waters.

Gomez started more than half the games & played more than half the minutes in our PL winning season under Klopp. He ranked 11th for PL minutes that year. That's a significant contribution in our title winning season.

[RedMagic]

Minutes played ≠ Level of contribution

If those two things were equal, I'm sure there are many players such as Djimi Traore who happened to have played a fair few minutes for a team that won at least one of the big two prizes, who would be lauded as being much more integral to some of our greatest triumphs than they actually were.

[CCTV]

Interesting,
If an activity, situation, etc. involves something, that thing is a part of the activity, etc.:

I'd suggest measuring a players involvement is best done via starts & minutes played.

[Red October]

He's been under Rodgers,Hodgson,Dalglish,Klopp and Slot and been involved in every trophy we've won in that spell. He must have done something right.
Not many premier League teams if any have a CB as good who's willing to be a back up player, every team that's successful needs players like that.

Think he signed in Rodgers' last summer 2015.

[Steveo]

That’s true - it was summer 2015 just a few months before Jurgen walked in. Bobby also signed that summer.

[Red October]

I can't believe he's still only 28.