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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    News on Bajcetic.

    Stefan Bajcetic "counting the days" to Liverpool return - Liverpool FC - This Is Anfield https://share.google/GiYV7e9iie7uyKNOS
    That was some days ago! lol

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    when is finally fit if ever he needs to go on loan for gametime, not going to get much here

    might get 10-20m next season for him if we're lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    I can see both sides of it.

    On the one hand, he did a lot for us, so he deserves appreciation and applause, which may come later in his career.

    On the flip side, he essentially was the local supporter role on the pitch and had said things in the past about wanting to stay here, wanting to Captain the club and was here at a time when we genuinely competed for the most elite honours, which we (mostly) didn't during the career of someone like Gerrard. He not only leaves to what was our biggest rival for European silverware (3 Finals against them!) but does so when we have an excellent squad and shown we can continue to compete. That won't sit well with some and the supporters have the right to decide how they feel on it. Let's be honest here - the knives were absolutely out for Trent proverbially speaking and if Klopp hadn't said his piece there probably would have been some boos when he lifted the League trophy in front of the crowd.

    It was Klopp's impact via how articulate he is that massively put a lid on that bubbling discontent and that lid wasn't going to sit forever.

    I do hope a day comes where he is at charity matches and it's a more comfortable atmosphere but I totally understand some feeling betrayed.
    I don't agree with booing. I totally understand the feeling because he could have signed a contract and we would have got maybe 60m or something for him. I think people would have accepted that. But Liverpool have always been bigger than booing your ex-players. Apart from maybe El Hadji Diouf !! ;-)
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    What about the season after season booing of Raheem Sterling, who treated our club like shit, spoke against us in the media whilst trying to get a move to a 'bigger' club. I always thought that was fine to boo him, and it put him off his game as well.Trent... for me we can let it go now. He's made a stupid decision career wise, to sit on the bench at Madrid. Carvajal injured and he still can't get in the starting eleven. Balon D'or?! He's not Cafu or roberto carlos is he. Fantastic players like Mo Salah and Iniesta been sensational for years and never won it.
    I don't think Trent will even stay at Madrid that long. Where will he go? Dread to think. City? Saudi? MLS?

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    Whilst the raw emotion driving the booing of Trent Alexander-Arnold is fully understandable, I still find the whole situation deeply sad. The frustration stems from his controversial exit - running down his contract to ease a move away, a choice that undoubtedly deprived the club of a massive transfer fee. No argument, the manner of his departure wasn't ideal, but separating the man from the mercenary is crucial here.

    This isn't the case of a player like Raheem Sterling, who was openly looking for a bigger salary and a different challenge and could reasonably be labelled a mercenary. This is one of our own. Trent Alexander-Arnold is a local lad who spent over two decades - 20 of his 27 years - knitted into the club's fabric. He sacrificed his entire childhood for the opportunity to become a Red at the top level. That kind of profound, personal commitment should count for something infinitely more than the closing chapter of his contract.

    This is a player who literally won the lot. He lifted the Premier League title, the Champions League, and every major honour available to him. He dedicated his prime years to delivering trophies and historic moments, making memories that no contractual dispute can erase.

    Would I have wanted him to sign an extension so that our billionaire owners could maximise the fee and funnel that money back into their buy-to-let model? Of course, I would. That's the cold logic of modern football. But I refuse to believe that the financial mechanics of a contract….a technicality that ultimately benefits the corporate owners more than the ordinary fan….should warrant such a toxic reaction toward a figure who gave his heart and soul to the club.

    The boos should be reserved for true betrayers or those who showed no respect. They should not be directed at a player whose history is bound up with our greatest recent successes. To boo Trent Alexander-Arnold is to allow a short-term disappointment to overshadow a spectacular, life-long legacy. He deserves respect, not ridicule, for everything he achieved wearing the shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red October View Post
    I don't agree with booing. I totally understand the feeling because he could have signed a contract and we would have got maybe 60m or something for him. I think people would have accepted that. But Liverpool have always been bigger than booing your ex-players. Apart from maybe El Hadji Diouf !! ;-)
    I don't think I'd boo myself, were I at the ground. Though I don't think I'd applaud either - I'd likely say/do nothing regarding him coming onto the pitch - "move on" and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Whilst the raw emotion driving the booing of Trent Alexander-Arnold is fully understandable, I still find the whole situation deeply sad. The frustration stems from his controversial exit - running down his contract to ease a move away, a choice that undoubtedly deprived the club of a massive transfer fee. No argument, the manner of his departure wasn't ideal, but separating the man from the mercenary is crucial here.

    This isn't the case of a player like Raheem Sterling, who was openly looking for a bigger salary and a different challenge and could reasonably be labelled a mercenary. This is one of our own. Trent Alexander-Arnold is a local lad who spent over two decades - 20 of his 27 years - knitted into the club's fabric. He sacrificed his entire childhood for the opportunity to become a Red at the top level. That kind of profound, personal commitment should count for something infinitely more than the closing chapter of his contract.

    This is a player who literally won the lot. He lifted the Premier League title, the Champions League, and every major honour available to him. He dedicated his prime years to delivering trophies and historic moments, making memories that no contractual dispute can erase.

    Would I have wanted him to sign an extension so that our billionaire owners could maximise the fee and funnel that money back into their buy-to-let model? Of course, I would. That's the cold logic of modern football. But I refuse to believe that the financial mechanics of a contract….a technicality that ultimately benefits the corporate owners more than the ordinary fan….should warrant such a toxic reaction toward a figure who gave his heart and soul to the club.

    The boos should be reserved for true betrayers or those who showed no respect. They should not be directed at a player whose history is bound up with our greatest recent successes. To boo Trent Alexander-Arnold is to allow a short-term disappointment to overshadow a spectacular, life-long legacy. He deserves respect, not ridicule, for everything he achieved wearing the shirt.
    Trent and Greta, stolen childhoods and dreams

    You're living in a country with massive numbers of child sexual abuse cases amongst working class girls, gangraped, pimped out and even branded from ages 10 & 11.

    Trent earnt large sums of money at LFC, won big titles and ended up darting off to Madrid having suckered many fans. He's since been booed.

    Not sure were on the same page as to what a sacrificed childhood looks like.

    One gets to play football at a big club meeting stars of the game, and having massive opportunities.

    The others are gangraped, beaten, branded and sold for fuck all to dirty bastards, and left in this sorry state to protect the corporare mantra and middle-upper class folks vanity, diversity is our strength. Can't they just shut up for the sake of diversity & wishful thinking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    I can see both sides of it.

    On the one hand, he did a lot for us, so he deserves appreciation and applause, which may come later in his career.

    On the flip side, he essentially was the local supporter role on the pitch and had said things in the past about wanting to stay here, wanting to Captain the club and was here at a time when we genuinely competed for the most elite honours, which we (mostly) didn't during the career of someone like Gerrard. He not only leaves to what was our biggest rival for European silverware (3 Finals against them!) but does so when we have an excellent squad and shown we can continue to compete. That won't sit well with some and the supporters have the right to decide how they feel on it. Let's be honest here - the knives were absolutely out for Trent proverbially speaking and if Klopp hadn't said his piece there probably would have been some boos when he lifted the League trophy in front of the crowd.

    It was Klopp's impact via how articulate he is that massively put a lid on that bubbling discontent and that lid wasn't going to sit forever.

    I do hope a day comes where he is at charity matches and it's a more comfortable atmosphere but I totally understand some feeling betrayed.
    Largely agree. Think most fans were celebrating the league title on that day and not arsed with Trent.

    They took that small window afforded to them to boo him prior to the league title celebrations.

    A small window provided by VVD & Salah & LFC, with LFC getting pelters over the those 3 contracts not being done. They withheld VVD & Salahs contract announcements to protect Trent.

    Had Trent been honest with people, hed have spoken very differently and fans wouldn't have been as irate with him, as you said he gave out lots of pr bits that led people to believe he wanted to be at LFC.

    He's a real Madrid player now, so he's not in a Red shirt anymore and in time he'll just have to realise his decisions define him like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justincredible View Post
    Bloody hell.. it's like it just won't ever happen

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