Reply With QuoteYep, totally different beasts.Originally Posted by Steveo
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Rowdy Yates
Possibly - he has quality, just don’t see him holding up the ball like Bobby did, a huge part of his link up play. Bobby a big strong lad beyond the finesse
Master Tactician
Yep, totally different beasts.
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I'm sure everyone thought that Wirtz was going to be our de Bruyne (which we haven't really needed because of the faster pressing, counter attacking and Trent of previous seasons), and we've kind of set the side up for that eventuality. Sadly, however good his ball skills may be, he hasn't the physicality or speed for the Prem. We can't afford to wait around like we did with Darwin for him to take off. We have to cut our losses very soon and revert to our 433 and keep Wirtz as a luxury sub when the game is won.
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It's looking a bit of a mess so far. Hard to tell if that's all on Slot or on the transfer committee or both. It looks like we've signed players and don't know how to use them....Wirtz especially. To be fair that might be partially because Kerkez hasn't been working out as planned, Isak's been injured and Frimpong's been injured a lot. So maybe Slot hasn't really got to use his ideal first 11. And the ones he has used haven't been doing it.
From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down, I convulsed with laughter. Someday I intend on reading it. Groucho Marx
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Well so far Kerkez looks to be a mistake and Wirtz looks a huge mistake, not just ability wise but bringing in a 10 at all.
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Kerkez has a "Ziege" look to it at the moment.
I remember him having a blinder season for Boro then we bought him and it was a case of "has anyone actually checked if this guy can defend?".
To be fair he was the standout left back last season, he hadn't just turned shit so I'm hopeful he'll come good.
Wirtz is simply not getting to grips with the pace. Three occasions yesterday he tried to shoot but it was so slow he may aswell have sent them a letter last week letting them know when and where he was going to be.
He wants far too long, I'm really surprised at how slow he is.
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I just posted this on a different forum.
There's a lot of moving parts in a team and right now many of them aren't clicking which were last season. Mo is slower and not offering much threat. We've lost Trent who provided a threat from RB (albeit a liability going the other way), Wirtz in theory is a quick-footed attacking mid/10, but in reality is lightweight and games are passing him by a lot. We need pace desperately. I feel a bit sorry for Slot as he's not even getting to play all the new players which is maybe why things are looking more disheveled that they might. If Frimpong was on the wing instead of Mo he would offer a threat with Bradley behind and then both can get up and down quickly. Play Mo as a 10 in and around the box off Ekitike. If Isak was fit maybe he'd begin to offer a threat going forward.
At the peak of Klopp's team we had Mane, Bobby and Mo who all provided threats and interchanged quickly so defenders were very occupied by them. We then had a fairly workmanlike midfield of Wini, Hendo and Fabinho. We had pace from FB and crosses from Trent. There were multiple threats for opposition to deal with. Everything was played at pace when we were at our best.
Not sure how Slot wants to set up in his ideal scenario but right now we don't have enough threats around the pitch so we become predictable and opposition let us play it out from the ponderous Konate who looks as comfortable as a sandpaper blanket. Szobo is a threat. Mo from time to time. Ekitike in some games….that's about it
From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down, I convulsed with laughter. Someday I intend on reading it. Groucho Marx
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Posted in another thread but probably better here, I am not sure how slot can't see the issues or addressing them
Problem is, bradley just get's ganged up on by any decent team, not sure why real was so poor tbh
but city's tactics was spot on salah doesn't drop back and help as he's been told he can stay forward, it's ok if we're against a average team like Forest, because Grav can come across and help from midfield or whoever, but against a team with good midfielders.. grav comes across Foden etc would have a field day.
Can't believe i'm saying this but it's time for a new RW next season and salah to drop to the bench.
Frimpong will never work at RB because of salah sadly, he's too attacking, we need a RW who drops back, then it would work, we need another rebuild already a LW,RW 2 Cb's and Baleba or whoever in midfield...
only 5 players needed for the first team!
What a shocking window.
Also the case for Wirtz, how can we play with a AMC when we don't have salah dropping back and already leaving gaps on the pitch, no wonder it's not working, it's not rocket science.
The balance is completly fucked up
Also considering how bad people said Trent was at defending... salah didn't drop back then either, didn't do to bad considering... or maybe teams didn't realise to 2v1 him then either...
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https://www.skysports.com/share/13467964
There's the answer to why we're losing games. It's not much to do with formations it's to do with work rate. Those stats are damning.
Add that to our profligacy in front of goal and leaky defence and it adds up to a team that's struggling big time.
We are third lowest in the league over 90 mins. Absolutely unacceptable and as far as I'm concerned that lies squarely with the coaching side.
I've said it for a few weeks now, this a lazy team full of complacency who thought this season was going to be a cakewalk. After what Steveo mentioned about the defeats since PSG I think it can be traced right back to that. The deck chairs out with games to go also. Standards have slipped.
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Slot going off on holiday during the season on a number of occasions has set a very bad example, never mind other issues such as him sunning himself when he should be concentrating on trying to fix the numerous problems we have, some of which will definitely be down to him.
He repeatedly comes out with some highly questionable things during his interviews and press conferences. That alone raises serious questions as to his capability to rectify any issues that he and his team are having.
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