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Thread: Other Games 29/11

  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by jozza800 View Post
    Whatever the formation, the balance hasn't been right all season. Whether there are 2 in the middle or 3, they've all been caught far too far upfield.


    It's the numbers Jozza the numbers. The fact that football is fluid and cannot be boiled down to a phone number escapes many a latter day "expert".

    "Slot plays/played a 4-2-3-1" oft used by those without a clue describes a shape that exists/existed perhaps only for the 5 seconds before kickoff. Anyone actually at the games knows this - because they witnessed it in 3 dimensions - rather than on a screen.

    DNA regardless of the Slot tweak (largely on paper) last season and where we see things changing in a more radical sense this time out..

    Last season for us, slowly adopting a 4-3-2-1 was just an attacking variation of the 4-3-3, prioritising attacking width through the full-backs and overloading the half-spaces.

    Era-tage...

    LFC last 10 years : Driven by pace, verticality, high pressing, and creating goal chaos through the full-backs and half-spaces.

    CFC last few years: Driven by control, technical passing, and relying on individual quality and traditional hold-up play in the centre.

    Two teams, same "numbers," but completely opposite tactical philosophies

    Bottom line is... You're absolutely right off course Jozza... but try to remember 'what' you are talking to.

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    F/T Man Utd 1-1 Wham

    At least they’re still shite

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    Brenda wins it for Villa 😂

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    Get iiiiiiin

    Massive win and is this the Arsenal wobble…? Need City to stand up now.

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    Incredible last ditch goal from villa. Deserved from what i saw

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    Has Emery got the Indalo over Arteta…?

    Would be tough to argue that Arsenal come closer to winning a title had they kept him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red October View Post
    Incredible last ditch goal from villa. Deserved from what i saw
    It was a great game but a depressing watch as both were great but we were better than both last season before destroying the blueprint and wasting over 400 million in Slot’s pipe dream that won’t work

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    Watch sunderland go one better than they did at Anfield now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Has Emery got the Indalo over Arteta…?

    Would be tough to argue that Arsenal come closer to winning a title had they kept him.
    He certainly has spent better than Arteta, and Klopp in recent years by my analysis.

    LFC

    20/21 -67.6m (mv gain +94.65)
    Spent 84.8 value 182.5
    Sold 17.2 value 87.85

    21/22 -59.35 (mv gain +22)
    Spent 91 value 155
    Sold 31.65 value 133

    22/23 -65.1 (mv gain 34.7)
    Spent 145.8 value 165
    Sold 80.7 value 130.3

    23/24 -111.8 (mv gain 29.8)
    Spent 172 value 191.5
    Sold 60.7 value 161.7

    Total 303.85 net.
    Gross spend 493.6
    Gross sales 190.25
    Market value shift +181.15

    https://www.transfermarkt.com/liverpool-fc/transfers/verein/31/plus/?saison_id=2023&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=



    Arsenal


    20/21 -66.85 (MV gain +43.55)
    Spent 86 value 229.3
    Sold 19.15 value 185.75

    21/22 -136 (Mv loss -59.3)
    Spent 167.4 value 185.85
    Sold 31.4 value 245.15

    22/23 -162.6 (Mv +171.8)
    Spent 186.4 value 370
    Sold 23.8 value 198.2

    23/24 -165.9 (mv gain +131.6)
    Spent 235.1 value 319.9
    Sold 69.2 value 188.3

    Total 531.35 net.
    Gross spend 674.9
    Gross sales 143.55
    Market value shift +287.65

    https://www.transfermarkt.com/arsenal-fc/transfers/verein/11/plus/?saison_id=2020&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=


    Arsenal Spent a further 227.5 mill net,
    181.3 gross.
    And had a greater market value shift +106.5 mill

    Per €uro Net-Spent
    Arsenal gained 54 cent in market value.
    LFC gained 59 cent in market value.



    Emery's Villa

    22/23 -46.14 (Mv +78.7)
    Spent 100.14 value 242.7
    Sold 54 value 164

    23/24 -78.95 (mv gain 110.75)
    Spent 111.5 value 179.45
    Sold 32.55 value 68.7

    Total 125.09 net.
    Gross spend 211.64
    Gross sales 86.55
    Market value shift +189.45

    Per €uro Net-Spent
    Villa gained 151 cent.

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    City making Sunderland look decidedly average 2-0 up on 35mins

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