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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    It's fucking infuriating. Turn our last 4 draws into wins and it's +8 points for us and -1 for Arsenal..
    Well October should have been a revert to what won us the league or go ultimatum to be fair

    The only redemption there can possibly be for Edwards and Hughes in this is to get Yildiz in this window

    We have our differences you think players can magically be shoe horned into any formation and style of play and stronger disagree 😂 but surely even you don’t believe in a 4231 being played as outs is

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    After 22 games last year we had 53 points
    Scored 54
    Conceded 21

    This year 36 points
    Scored 33
    Concede 29

    If Salah of last season was here in 25/26 he'd have 16.45 goal contributions.

    And still just win our last 4 draws in the PL and it's 44 points ... ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    Well October should have been a revert to what won us the league or go ultimatum to be fair

    The only redemption there can possibly be for Edwards and Hughes in this is to get Yildiz in this window

    We have our differences you think players can magically be shoe horned into any formation and style of play and stronger disagree 😂 but surely even you don’t believe in a 4231 being played as outs is
    Stats sites like whoscored show we play 4231 mostly under Slot, and did so in 2024/25.
    In 2023/24 under Kopp they show 433, which we mostly played under Klopp.

    In contrast to you calling for Slot early doors, I'd suggest each of Virgil, Konate, MacA & Salah have been worse than Slot this season.
    And having those 4 ^^^^ from last season, this season, well it would be 44+ points minimum.

    4 draws in the last 4
    4 underperforming 1st eleven players
    A few more injuries
    No 44 points minimum

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    Stats sites like whoscored show we play 4231 mostly under Slot, and did so in 2024/25.
    In 2023/24 under Kopp they show 433, which we mostly played under Klopp.

    In contrast to you calling for Slot early doors, I'd suggest each of Virgil, Konate, MacA & Salah have been worse than Slot this season.
    And having those 4 ^^^^ from last season, this season, well it would be 44+ points minimum.

    4 draws in the last 4
    4 underperforming 1st eleven players
    A few more injuries
    No 44 points minimum
    It’s the system and style

    Stats site can show what they want I’ve watched the goals right through and the numbers of players in areas are very clear

    Definite fromt 3

    Definite midfield 3 with Szobo or Macca often moving from there to 10 when attacking 4213 quite often in evidence

    Mo and Diaz mostly ahead of Jota

    Don’t know what they’re watching it’s clearly the same patterns as under Jurgen

    All the main sports broadcasters and pundits had it as 433 throughout the season there were several pundits analysis if ‘our midfield 3’ too

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    In contrast to you calling for Slot early doors, I'd suggest each of Virgil, Konate, MacA & Salah have been worse than Slot this season
    This is where you don’t understand the game and the why of those players

    Poor press and counter press through obvious formation and style of play change

    Equals no pressure on the ball hugely adversely affecting Virgil and Konate this is a consequence of Slot’s changes

    Salah is playing deeper as it always told you would be an issue in a 4231 and the play is being made to all try and revolve around Wirtz all short passing and slow Mo needs it further forward and direct when he’s free and it’s on, that’s not been happening for the most part - Again a consequence of the changes

    Very clear in lots of the goals of last season we played a 3 in midfield from where Szobo or Macca or both moved into the 10 position joining the attack They often did this following a more direct ball from deeper to the forward

    The direct balls are barely being played it’s all nothing 5 yard balls Wirtz mostly occupies the space Macca used to move into

    Again a consequence of the changes

    So these are all issues cause by Slot

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