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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    His father was the one mouthing off about Barce in the main.

    The fact is Diaz wanted to stay.. He ONLY left because Hughes and Edwards refused to get close to his desired salary.. Which was WAY below the clearly inferior Gakpo..

    No surprises that CCTV who felt Gakpo outperformed Salah and Diaz no really.. is trying to spin the BS..
    that's true, can't blame him for wanting to leave his wage was silly really compared to the rest.... chiesa is on double say no more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Clear to who..? A one armed bandit? Face it you know nothing beyond the PR push for the minions. Diaz is on the record saying he wanted to stay and that he loved the club. But he wasn't going to sit their taking half the wages of Cody - I'm not in Diaz's class - Gakp... The Club KNEW he was the one to cash in on and they did.

    Your baloney about his actions at the time of Jota's funeral fly in the face of the sentiment made uber clear by Jota's wife..
    Heres what you said previously about Diaz & his agent.

    Steveo said:
    1st October 2025 08:02 PM
    @ CD

    not that I am condoning Diaz - I think he was ungrateful to h club that helped him and his family. But from a selfish Liverpool fan perspective - we need him,

    I think his statement on why he moved on, while outwardly positive, perfectly illustrates the art of the transfer PR script—and the careful reasons why the real issues are never mentioned.

    Why the Narrative is Always "New Challenge"
    The reasons Díaz gave “new challenge" and being attracted to "the project they were building at Bayern" are the safest, most professional pieces of PR. The very absence of "sour grapes" or talk of money confirms the success of his strategy.

    Immediate Goodwill is Paramount: Díaz's primary goal is to start his career at Bayern on the best possible footing. By talking up the "project," he instantly validates the ambition of his new club and gives the fans a positive narrative to rally behind. A warm welcome is crucial, and it buys him time if his on-pitch start is slow.

    Maintaining a Clean Professional Image: If the true reason was a falling out with a manager or disappointment with Liverpool's strict wage structure (which is almost certainly a core factor), publicly revealing that paints him as a disruptive "problem player." Sticking to the language of "ambition" keeps his reputation immaculate for every club in the future.

    His Agent's Calculation: His representatives are focused on future business. Burning bridges with a giant like Liverpool by citing "disappointing wage offers" is bad for their relationship with all major clubs. The narrative of challenging himself, especially coming from a humble background, is relatable and impossible for either set of fans to criticize.

    In short, his statement is designed to be unimpeachable while still achieving the desired outcome of a transfer and a massive pay bump. He gave the public the story they are required to hear.
    https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?311183-Slot/page5

    Like many before him, he and his agent knew what they were doing. Sadly, its just a new low point for the modern footballer.

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    think it's a mix of things really

    When he left I thought we might be able to get someone a bit younger and a big more clinical.. but instead we didn't even need to replace him apparently, and get to watch gakpo every week.

    but it's ok because our attacking options are better than arsenals.(lol)

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    my god looking at previous season and goals it's depressing now but we can be happy we had those times...

    Feel a bit bad for gakpo, We've had Mane-Diaz/Jota (when fit)..... now the main guy who has to start and we have to watch is gakpo LW every week..... it's not all his fault but he's not on that level, he's a good squad player..

    At least we've got to watch salah/firmino/mane/diaz and before that SaS not forgetting how good jota was before injury's and took him longer and longer to get fit and firing, then sadly passed

    it's not great now, but i'm sure the day will come again when we have a quality front 3, all top players
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    Just ignore the GIMP… There are 5 year olds who know more about this sport and who’ e been to more games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Just ignore the GIMP… There are 5 year olds who know more about this sport and who’ e been to more games.
    You cried tears of joy when Tony Blair was elected as PM... Another reason why you shouldn't call people gimp

    I've given you your own words on how savvy & brand conscious team Diaz really are...
    Yet you seem to think he just had to go to a pre-booked influencer event after the horrific news, and post photos on his own social media account, and have a local media interview drop whilst others were mourning & burying Jota.

    You said:

    not that I am condoning Diaz - I think he was ungrateful to h club that helped him and his family. But from a selfish Liverpool fan perspective - we need him,

    Yet you give Diaz a massive pass for his antics around Jotas funeral....

    The rest of your post is there for all to see..

    Here are 3 paragraph headings:
    ● Immediate Goodwill is Paramount:
    Díaz's primary goal is to start his career at Bayern on the best possible footing. By talking up the "project," he instantly validates the ambition of his new club and gives the fans a positive narrative to rally behind. A warm welcome is crucial, and it buys him time if his on-pitch start is slow.

    ● Maintaining a Clean Professional Image:
    If the true reason was a falling out with a manager or disappointment with Liverpool's strict wage structure (which is almost certainly a core factor), publicly revealing that paints him as a disruptive "problem player." Sticking to the language of "ambition" keeps his reputation immaculate for every club in the future.

    ● His Agent's Calculation:
    His representatives are focused on future business. Burning bridges with a giant like Liverpool by citing "disappointing wage offers" is bad for their relationship with all major clubs. The narrative of challenging himself, especially coming from a humble background, is relatable and impossible for either set of fans to criticize.

    (Then your conclusion)

    In short, his statement is designed to be unimpeachable while still achieving the desired outcome of a transfer and a massive pay bump. He gave the public the story they are required to hear.

    And you think there was no antics around jotas funeral.... ♤
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    Your memory is as selective as your logic isn't it...Henry's GIMP

    Let’s clear the air on your most bizarre claim first .

    I have never 'cried tears of joy' for Tony Blair. I fell for his lies before he got elected like many tens of millions. But, I’ve been consistently vocal about my loathing for the man I believe should have been locked up decades ago for his crimes. The fact that you’ve hallucinated an entire political history for me suggests you’re either confusing me with someone else or just making things up to fill the gaps in your argument. Either way, it’s embarrassing.

    On Diaz..You’re trying for a 'gotcha' moment that doesn’t exist. Acknowledging that the Team Diaz brand is savvy and calculating isn’t 'giving him a pass'- it’s an observation of how the modern game works. You can find his behavior ungrateful (as I stated) while also recognising that from a cold, sporting perspective, the squad needed his talent at the time. Those two thoughts can exist in the same brain.

    Regarding the Jota situation...trying to turn a pre-booked professional commitment into a moral failing is a reach, even for you. There is a massive difference between a player following a PR schedule for a charity set months in advance and 'disrespecting' a teammate.

    You’ve posted three bullet points that essentially agree with me..Diaz and his agents are clinical about his image. The point stands..his statements were designed to be unimpeachable PR. If you want to spend your time getting triggered by a player's social media feed during a period of mourning, that’s your prerogative, but don't pretend I’m the one being inconsistent here. As usual you have lost leave of your senses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Your memory is as selective as your logic isn't it...Henry's GIMP

    Let’s clear the air on your most bizarre claim first .

    1) I have never 'cried tears of joy' for Tony Blair. I fell for his lies before he got elected like many tens of millions. But, I’ve been consistently vocal about my loathing for the man I believe should have been locked up decades ago for his crimes. The fact that you’ve hallucinated an entire political history for me suggests you’re either confusing me with someone else or just making things up to fill the gaps in your argument. Either way, it’s embarrassing.

    2) On Diaz..You’re trying for a 'gotcha' moment that doesn’t exist. Acknowledging that the Team Diaz brand is savvy and calculating isn’t 'giving him a pass'- it’s an observation of how the modern game works. You can find his behavior ungrateful (as I stated) while also recognising that from a cold, sporting perspective, the squad needed his talent at the time. Those two thoughts can exist in the same brain.

    3) Regarding the Jota situation...trying to turn a pre-booked professional commitment into a moral failing is a reach, even for you. There is a massive difference between a player following a PR schedule for a charity set months in advance and 'disrespecting' a teammate.

    4) You’ve posted three bullet points that essentially agree with me..Diaz and his agents are clinical about his image. The point stands..his statements were designed to be unimpeachable PR. If you want to spend your time getting triggered by a player's social media feed during a period of mourning, that’s your prerogative, but don't pretend I’m the one being inconsistent here. As usual you have lost leave of your senses.
    Let's clear the air

    1) you shed tears of Joy when Tony Blair took office, a blairite, and later regretted it.
    Post-bumming-regret to borrow a few forum phrases

    2) let me spell this out for you very clearly.
    I've provided your post and words on how savvy Team Diaz PR is in the PR game. This shows you believe Diaz is streetwise at the pr game with his agent. I agree, most players/coaches at the top of the game these days are.
    Now, we have a series of events around Jotas death, mourning & funeral. Where Diaz caught headlines.
    A pr savvy fella catching headlines, damaging brand - oh no the buckeroos, but shortly thereafter moves to Bayern. And you seem to think he didn't know what he was doing in terms of the pr look. Now he just had to do the event, and post the socials and have the local media, it was just this really big pre-engagament and he couldn't but do it this way..
    Your saying ungrateful was in the context of what the club did for him around his family being kidnapped.

    3) there is nothing wrong with cancelling a public engagement following the horrific death of a teammate and friend.
    It's fully possible to not post on your own social media channels.
    You can get local media to do as you please when providing access, and especially around the time of a personal tragedy.
    Again you have to square away your standard of Diaz's pr savvy rating with his actions around this time.

    4) those are your paragraph headings & words: They are a direct quote of your post on Diaz and his Agent/PR.

    Now you said Diaz moved largely for buckeroos (which i dont mind in general) and is so pr savvy...
    Well
    I'm stating that it would seem to be logical for you to conclude Diaz knew what he was doing around that time also, when Jota died.

    Now if he knew what he was doing,
    Maybe he did it for personal gain via transfer to Bayern.
    Or maybe he knew the pr liability and felt this pre-engaged event was worth the damage...
    Maybe some other theory...

    I think Diaz is a dick for how he acted around the time of Jotas death. I'd rather watch Rio Ngumoha play 90 minutes lwf for the rest of the season than see Diaz at LFC.

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