Florian Wirtz

[Kev0909]

Regarding Alexis mac allister. I think hes starting to get back to his old self. Much more improved in recent matches

Fair enough only seen the highlights as I was at work, so can't judge today, was worried about us getting bullied in midfield but we won 4-1 so obviously was alright!

But yeah I don't know the best way going forward though, but wirtz is going to be crucial... and obviously further up is his best place, so we'll have to figure something out.

[justme]

Yep, lets see what happens over the next few months!

[Kev0909]

Yep, lets see what happens over the next few months!

Yep surely there's some sort of plan, otherwise I doubt we would sign him in the first place.

I'd like to think the people behind the scenes that get paid thousands.. would have a plan going forward anyway, but who knows.

[Steveo]

Florian

[JockStrap]

Maestro.

[Nineteenx]

It's why we need a proper DM, the balance is off- normally with a attacking mid teams have 2 good DM'S one a destroyer and one more of a passer.

Bit like Mascherano/Alonso/Gerrard I guess.

Doesn't really help that maca has been stinking the place out, wonder what's up with him

None of the players you listed are destroyers

Wirtz needs 3 ahead of him when he’s been furthest forward with Ekitike it hasn’t worked in my view, when the 3 are occupying defenders he can see a picture

Yesterday there were 4 players ahead of him occupying defenders for him to move into the space and assist and score

Please try to think of Countinho and De Bruyne how they started in midfield and joined the forwards

If everyone picks up and presses you don’t especially need a DM

Not everything revolves around Wirtz or needs to Ekitike’s second Kerkez ignored him and released Hugo

[Kev0909]

None of the players you listed are destroyers

Wirtz needs 3 ahead of him when he’s been furthest forward with Ekitike it hasn’t worked in my view, when the 3 are occupying defenders he can see a picture

Yesterday there were 4 players ahead of him occupying defenders for him to move into the space and assist and score

Please try to think of Countinho and De Bruyne how they started in midfield and joined the forwards

If everyone picks up and presses you don’t especially need a DM

Not everything revolves around Wirtz or needs to Ekitike’s second Kerkez ignored him and released Hugo

I didn't list anyone, there's still plenty of modern day ball winners out there but overall do more, too.

Do you think i'm that stupid to think Alonso was a destroyer? that list was our old midfield... Gerrard played more forward them 2 holding, Mascherano the bulldog, alonso the passer- what a midfield.

[Nineteenx]

Fair enough only seen the highlights as I was at work, so can't judge today, was worried about us getting bullied in midfield but we won 4-1 so obviously was alright!

But yeah I don't know the best way going forward though, but wirtz is going to be crucial... and obviously further up is his best place, so we'll have to figure something out.

Wirtz has finally bern delivering what was expected of him through being a bit deeper and having 3 or 4 ahead of him occupying defenders he can play off

It wasn’t working with him further forward and with one forward less we constantly weren’t creating or scoring enough

[Nineteenx]

I didn't list anyone, there's still plenty of modern day ball winners out there but overall do more, too.

Do you think i'm that stupid to think Alonso was a destroyer? that list was our old midfield... Gerrard played more forward them 2 holding, Mascherano the bulldog, alonso the passer- what a midfield.

You listed Rice and Rodri neither are destroyers

The game has changed a lot in recent years almost all teams press and pick up a lot of them man for man so there isn’t a reliance on a ball winning midfielder they all do it

Gravenberch has been doing as well as anyone our issue isn’t lacking players who can do all those things it’s getting the balance of players attacking looking to be in space and picking up right

Our midfielders rotate all the time in the modern game where the entire team defend

Grav Macca Wirtz or Szobo can be the furthest forward where does that leave your No6 how many of those old school No6 tackles have you seen lately from any team?

[JockStrap]

Wirtz has finally bern delivering what was expected of him through being a bit deeper and having 3 or 4 ahead of him occupying defenders he can play off

It wasn’t working with him further forward and with one forward less we constantly weren’t creating or scoring enough

Wirtz has been delivering for months. You just couldn’t see it. But I’m glad you’re now a believer. Don’t suppose you could have a chat with your mates? They’re still in the dark ages.