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Wikipedia no less..
Wikipedia is a battlefield of on going consensus over truth. It relies on what a majority of volunteer editors agree upon - rather than the raw data.In this case the actual location. It often prioritises political or official narratives over the physical reality on the ground.
FYI Dubrovnik which is north of where I was - spent centuries as the Republic of Ragusa, an independent maritime power that competed with Venice. It’s hundreds of miles south of Venice. has a warmer climate and its history is tied to the Levant, North Africa, and the Italian Peninsula - the heart of Southern European trade.
The Latitudinal Reality....Geographically, "Southern Europe" is generally considered the region encompassing the three great southern peninsulas…the Iberian, the Italian, and the Balkan.
Dubrovnik sits at 42.6° N. The same latitude as Rome, Italy, and Pyrenees-Orientales, in Southern France on the border with Spain..
To call this "Central Europe" ignores the physical location on the globe in favour of political groupings (like Croatia's historical ties to the Habsburgs) a
The 45th Parallel (The Latitudinal Divide)
In geographic terms, Southern Europe is generally defined as the region sitting below the 45th parallel north.
Marseille sits at approximately 43.3° N.
Dubrovnik sits at approximately 42.6° N.
Both cities are physically closer to Rome (41.9° N) than they are to their own northern counterparts like Paris (48.8° N) or Zagreb (45.8° N). Geographically, they are positioned on the "shores of the Mediterranean," which is the primary defining feature of Southern Europe.
Take a look at these.. and they aren’t perfect either BTW..
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-countries-make-up-southern-europe.html
https://www.freeworldmaps.net/europe/southern/
https://www.mapsofworld.com/europe/country-groupings/southern-europe-map.html
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/southern-europe-colored-political-map-mediterranean-2704141371?trackingId=26185c2e-949b-4d0d-b0b2-c1f182ca6a9c&listId=searchResults
Even many of these fail to address the true geography as I have mentioned. For instance much of Provence is further south than much of Tuscany which is located in the central Italy - yet - because the French capital is located in North Western Europe these very broad maps fail to show the reality. But Provence isn’t in North Western Europe no matter WHO says it is.
Facts poor CCTV - facts are your weakness. Being pedantic and trying to prove that X seems to be your sport. It's led to reems of needless copy on this Mo thread..
Maybe accept one of them once in a while.. and people might engage your whims from time to time.
Last edited by Steveo; Yesterday at 06:02 PM.
No integrity, no substance.
You said my recollection was wrong.
I remembered what you said about your brother, true.
Remembered what you said about Taksin, true.
Remembered you were in Croatia, true.
Remembered your son got both barrels off your daughter, true.
Not long ago, you swore you never posted about your family on here, your son in particular, outside of a football context, going the game..
False.
Go join Wikipedia and edit the page for all I care![]()
I see whilst crying about kids being brought into it, you're not arsed attending to what you said about my family. I only bring it up as a point of argument. You bedwetter![]()
Now, if you are able to, please define what you mean by "Admin Immunity"![]()
CCTV - what really is your problem? Why are you constantly twisting what people say? What is wrong with you?
You tell lie after lie after lie.
Is it that you cannot accept the truth? Facts are an irrelevance?
When did I ever say I never posted about my family? I shared with the entire forum about my wife and her breast cancer. You are literally spreading filth to detract from the 2023 black hole.
Taksin's disappearance and Jockstrap's putrid arrival.
Same admin - Same speech patterns of the owners behind the so obviously contrived fake personas deliberately made to seem so different.
Everything you remember is false. My brother has Asperger’s - not that it is any business of yours. I openly stated this years ago in a convo with 19.
Your consistent false memory and misunderstandings are a copious bore - as are you. Your politics are as filthy as your lack of honesty.
You chose to start bringing my 14-year-old son into a convo and on a topic that isn’t decent. You have called me many names and I posted a depiction of a GIMP in leather - - triggered you… No wonder… as it perfectly encapsulates how I see you and your unfettered devotion to some Yank billionaires over the club you claim to support - one you - as yet - haven’t put a single penny into going to watch.
Stop your bullshit.
You bring up my family and trips to Croatia from years ago because you have zero answer for the physical data I've presented. You’re relying on 'memories' of a database that was purged in January 2023 specifically so people like you could gaslight the remaining users.
Here is one definition of Admin Immunity.
CCTV has it.
You have no integrity because you hide behind the Admin's shield while trying to 'memory-hole' the fact that this site was sold to Valnet in Oct 2022. If you had any substance, you'd stop talking about my kids and start explaining why Vin hasn't posted since the 2023 migration but had a ghost-login last July. But you won't, because the 'Bouncer' doesn't pay you to tell the truth.
https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?311414-Match-Thread-Fulham-V-Liverpool/page29Steveo said:
4th January 2026 06:16 PM
And for the record I have never mentioned my son in any context other than conversations I have had with him on Football,
CCTV is a disgrace and should disappear
I just left ye on yere high horses and never bothered telling you. You'd brought my family into it many times beforehand. Pitying them stuck with me.Crimson Dynasty said:
4th January 2026 05:36 PM
Hey, they the ones who showed my a picture of their daughter.
How in the world was I expected to stop myself from pulling out my knob and jerking off to it in front of them?
If they didn't want to see that, they shouldn't have brought their kid up"
-CCTV
What a dipshit this idiot is.
And I dont mind those comments you made, the hypocrisy, however, hysterical.