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    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    We missed out on winning a lot more because our squad was always weak in depth and because of FAPGMOL
    The above analyses spends better than most articles you'll see on the matter. Transfermarkt is widely cited but few put in the effort to look at the impact of spending objectively. It's pretty simple but more complex than commonly discussed. The G.Nev take on net spending.

    No arguments on cituae, pl, uefa, ffp, cas.
    Essentially Pep took over a beefed up squad at cituae with many young talented players, and spent more than Klopp.

    When you say our squad was always weak in depth, that's contentious as I see it.

    1) the squad depth got Klopp his domestic successes in his latter years.
    We won domestic cups thanks to Taki, Divock, Jota. Divock v Barca alone and an iconic nerve settling 2nd goal winning number 6.

    2) if your limits are set, you can always have operated differently with hindsight reasonably applied.
    Like Mane 30 odd mill, Keita, Firmino, Ox, Origi, & Gini brought in 30 odd mill. Thats a disaster for net spending.
    Not unreasonable to think 100, 15, 75, 10, 15, 20, Total 235 mill would have been better moving on a little earlier and re-investing.

    In our Almost quad season, ultimately it came down to 2 games, a must win v cituae away, we drew, and the CL we lost. Hard to blame the lesser spotted players for either of those 2 games as I recall.

    In the CL loss we started with a strong 11 with Keita, Firmino & Jota in off the bench.
    In the 2-2 draw v cituae we started with a strong 11 with Keita, Firmino and Diaz coming in off the bench.

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    From another thread...

    Steveo said
    As with my comments on Arteta 2x eclipsing Klopp to finish second to City after finishing 43 points behind us in 2020. A 60 point gain in 3 seasons. Simple facts.. For some reason you have issue with facts. It's a problem
    Heres what you said:

    Brighton are a well run club - so fucking what. The reality is our amazing manager wasn’t backed as well as Arteta despite the obvious need - and from 43 points behind us in 2020 they closed the gap in 3 years to be ahead of us 2022/23 and again in 2023/24.

    This happened after they dropped the self sustaining model and we continued with the buy to let. It culminated in the best manager around walking early.

    “well run” hmm


    And when shown the 12 most expensive additions during their shared era, you stopped talking.

    Amongst an ocean of facts, you can use a selected fact to draw an incorrect conclusion or inference.

    As shown on the previous page, I have a method for analysing spending objectively.
    With a few managers selected, here's the recap.

    CCTV said:
    So let's recap, using a logical, extra level of analysis.

    Manager - Period - Net Spend & Market value gained per euro spent.

    Emery Villa 22/23 to 23/34
    €125.09 mill net & 151 cent gained per euro.

    Klopp 16/17 to 19/20
    €93.35 mill net & 87.4 cent gained per euro.

    Slot 24/25 to 25/26
    €258.4 mill net & 82.8 cent gained per euro.

    Klopp 20/21 to 23/24
    €303.85 mill net & 59 cent gained per euro.

    Areta 20/21 to 23/24
    €531.35 mill net & 54 cent gained per euro.

    Rodgers 12/13 to Post-Summer of 15/16
    €173.86 mill net & 2.4 cent gained per euro.
    Your selected timeline...

    Arteta finished above Klopp the season after Klopp very nearly won a quad. One of 2 blip seasons under Klopp which Pep has also had.

    Klopp finished under both Pep & Arteta in his last season, a season where VAR shafted us LFC supporters.

    Your arteta-maxxing is without context, and selective to the highest point.

    When given the actual players signed by both managers over their shared era, and asked to wax lyrically, you disappeared.

    As said you pay for you G.Nev football takes.

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