Summer transfers

[miller0863]

But that’s exactly the point mate. He looks good in International football and in the Bundesliga but completely anonymous in the ultra competitive English Premier League.
I very much doubt there is anything whatsoever in the link anyway, FSG would want their money back and having seen a full Premier League season of him, no one in England would pay half that.

[RedMagic]

Given that FSG haven't and aren't looking like they'll get rid of Slot, I'd say that the only way they get rid of Wirtz after just one season is if another club are prepared to pay what we shelled out for him, if not actually pay more than that.

Irrespective of what players join or leave us this summer, whilst Slot and Hedwards are at the club we're going to struggle to even qualify for the following season's CL.

[justme]

I'd sell Wirzt. immediately, we work better with a proper 3 in midfield.

[Daffydd]

Fernandez wants out of Chelsea, according to reports, for roughly what Wirtz cost.

[Daffydd]

Barcelona have agreed a deal worth more than £69m with Newcastle United for England forward Anthony Gordon.

[miller0863]

I'd sell Wirzt. immediately, we work better with a proper 3 in midfield.

Amen

[justme]

What summed up Wirzt for me at the weekend. He came on, off the bench. About 2 minutes in.. our forward had 2 players around him, Wirzt was about 6 feet away from him and instead of holding the ball up. he did a little up and under ball to the forward. and of course the forward lost out.. bizarre attempt at a pass. But hey hes Wirzt so it appeared clever and hes world class.

Anyway he may play better at Chelsea if he gets sold (he won't though) with 3 at the back system. like at Leverkusen,
but Bayern Leverkusen.. often conceded 2 goals a game and won in the last minute 3-2, they won numerous games like that.

I want us to play more possession and be less likely to get countered. and with natural 3 in there you have more of chance of defending a break.. playing Wirzt in there you basically have 2 midfielders.

Fucks everything up. means your fullbacks have less chance of sprinting forward., we play better with 3 natural midfielders.

[miller0863]

Rumours of a swap with Fernandez.

99% likely to be just click bait bollix

[justme]

Hopefully. Probably from Chelsea sources. I think we should sell Wirzt and get back close to the 100 million we paid out
It's not an 112 million, To trigger that, he needed to win 4 major trophies with us,, Ie 2 leagues and 2 champions league, or a combination of the 4.
Never happen with him in the team.. I see people, questioning perhaps the departure of Jones as well. Like it's some crime. Hes been kind of a regular for 3/4 seasons now. and not improved consistently at all . one good game and one bad.
He will be no loss either.

[Insidious]

I want us to play more possession and be less likely to get countered.

A massive issue that will still exist even if we parted ways with Wirtz is the 4-2-4 shape we employ when we press.

Once the opposition beat the press of the line of 4 lads who engage, there are two players left to cover about a third of the pitch. One of these two lads is often Mac Allister.

If we continue this pattern next season, then us having (or not having) Wirtz will have very little impact on how easily we're broken against.

It's one of the reasons I'm a little concerned about Wharton links. Wharton will be excellent at getting the ball forward quickly, which will be incredibly useful if we end up with pacey wide lads again (Wirtz will function well with this too) but Wharton isn't terribly quick in recovery, so we could look weak going the other way.

That's why I'd love someone like Anderson in there instead, though the money will be ridiculous for him.

But ideally we need to alter our pressing shape in a big way, or ensure that the four who do engage do so in such a way that we actually win the ball back high up the pitch much more often, rather than the half-assed push to create cover shadows that we seem to employ.

Certain systemic issues like this are a mess and transfers will only take it so far.