The Shill Effect

[miller0863]

And nothing to do with Brendan and his envelopes. There were three of you on the permanent wind up, now there is one.

[justincredible]

Flames only burn when they're being fanned...

[CCTV]

miller0863 said:22nd January 2026 06:57 PM
2003.

Looked around for LFC forums and landed here.

It was a really good crowd back in the day.
I remember pretty much everyone who’s been mentioned.
There was Nigel (N4C) the stats man.

I also remember Ducatiboy and Mo posting a vid of the two of them performing a Dirk Kuyt song, absolute classic.

I’ve been posting less of late as it has been a lot less enjoyable.
I don’t mind a debate, I enjoy a good reasoned argument of differing opinions but it’s gone beyond that.

Three people on here just cannot stand someone having a different opinion. They don’t argue their point they just wade in with insults, trying to belittle whoever thinks differently to them, then taking great delight in trolling the other person for weeks if they think they have been proven right.

Just get over yourselves ffs you are just another average Jo on a forum expressing an opinion.
And you find they are usually the “Uber Fan” type who think never EVER criticising a current player, the manager or the owners makes you a better fan.

Jeez it makes me nauseous.

The worst of the lot just goes round every thread just laying into anyone and everyone who does follow the Uber way. What an absolute wanker.

Looked on here the other day and the last post on the top 10 Threads were all him talking absolute bollocks. I just left, I have no interest in reading anything it has to say. No substance to anything just constant shilling.

Really is like a virus has infiltrated the Forum

I think you cower behind vagueness. After all we have never seen you post the name of your 3rd person. A few saw this for what it was, and you can see Steveo posting similarly in his shill thread.

The fact you haven't been banned for such sick behaviour shows the total sham of how this board is moderated.

Funny how 2 of your 3 got banned not long after your post above, where you certainly didnt try and get posters banned, but chuckle about them getting banned thereafter. 1 survived, 2 didnt lolza

No Steveo and you have way more patience than I, in responding to the constant flow of utter nonsense

As said, if you had integrity you'd have put Steveo in there on the definition.

Indeed. Until recently this was different. No keyboard warriors, few “Uber Fans” refusing to ever say a negative word about anything LFC related (never been near the ground in their lives) and calling out anything who does.

Believing that supporting the club means only EVER writing positives on a Forum however deluded, is really THE most nauseating trait for anyone pretending to support Liverpool football club, just to show what a super duper wuper fan they really are.

Obviously don’t have a competitive bone in their body and never played any sport in their lives, having turned up to every single PE lesson with a note from Mummy about his hurty in growing toenails.

Quite the opposite Kev, I do not think and have never intimidated I rule anything.

I contribute and listen to other opinions, I don’t just wade in with foul mouthed abuse because I’m pissed or had a bad day at work, both of which have been repeatedly tolerated by all on here.

Just look at your first post on this thread. Jesus wept Kev have a word with yourself lad. Ever since you started dating Joke Strap your outbursts have gone off the scale.

And as for being tolerant of other’s opinions, give me a break will ye.

That is precisely the point I was making, you are absolutely NOT tolerant of opposing opinions to your own. Your first option these days is to just insult anyone with a differing opinion.

Try reading back some of the stuff you post and then point out the bits were you were being tolerant.

Kev0 posting about me going to fight and die in the Ukraine war for Russia, to save my family the burden of me, wasn't an issue. Your problem with Kev0 started when he stepped out of line. You'd no problem with the language for years. Until it came your way from Kev0. Then it was unacceptable.

You also used a passive aggressive BR trick to get what you want, and offered clemency to Steveo & 19. Sadly the brenvelope/negging technique worked on those 2, and Kev0 & Jocky got banned. Even jocky pointed out to you how the thread was mostly positive bar your 3 brenvelopes.

[miller0863]

You really do talk some absolute shite don’t you. Constantly misinterpreting what people post, sometimes deliberately and sometimes because you’re unfortunately just not very bright.

I don’t and never have cowered anywhere in my life as anyone who knows me will confirm.

The people got banned for their interactions between the three of them including following each other onto other sites and various other ridiculous behaviour.

I called Kev out initially I believe for going too far with either justme or 19, not for anything he said to me.
He later went for me too towards the end but that had absolutely NOTHING to do with his being banned.

I doubt very much anyone would be banned for responding to constant foul mouthed abuse, so I really do not think I have done anything in my twenty plus years on this forum to warrant even a temporary ban, you think differently because… well as I said, you’re not very bright.

You post long diatribes of utter nonsense on here on a regular basis which I very much doubt are read in much detail at all. They’re usually pretty pointless and just dragging out arguments over and over.

And sorry to disappoint but I won’t be joining in on a regular basis.

[CCTV]

Im not sure where you are getting this I said you should be banned from.

"Steveo posting similarly in his shill thread.

The fact you (CCTV) haven't been banned for such sick behaviour shows the total sham of how this board is moderated."

I said steveo met the definition most, and I don't want him banned.
I said you didnt have the integrity to put him in there on Merit as per the definition.
And I said you started this ban talk. Which you did with that post.

[CCTV]

I don’t and never have cowered anywhere in my life as anyone who knows me will confirm.

Hard to believe that ^ is true of anyone.

Like I swear, I've never told a lie in my whole life.

[Steveo]

Miller just gave you a masterclass in how irrelevant you are. To cap it all off, you’ve hit a new low of absolute desperation by taking a childish playground swipe at him and implying you’ve never told a lie in your entire life. You are a pathological liar who was just caught red-handed fabricating forum history about my family.

Go sit in the corner with your spreadsheets, take another trip back to the Tate, and stop embarrassing yourself.

[CCTV]

You really do talk some absolute shite don’t you. Constantly misinterpreting what people post, sometimes deliberately and sometimes because you’re unfortunately just not very bright.

I don’t and never have cowered anywhere in my life as anyone who knows me will confirm.

The people got banned for their interactions between the three of them including following each other onto other sites and various other ridiculous behaviour.

I called Kev out initially I believe for going too far with either justme or 19, not for anything he said to me.
He later went for me too towards the end but that had absolutely NOTHING to do with his being banned.

I doubt very much anyone would be banned for responding to constant foul mouthed abuse, so I really do not think I have done anything in my twenty plus years on this forum to warrant even a temporary ban, you think differently because… well as I said, you’re not very bright.

You post long diatribes of utter nonsense on here on a regular basis which I very much doubt are read in much detail at all. They’re usually pretty pointless and just dragging out arguments over and over.

And sorry to disappoint but I won’t be joining in on a regular basis.

1 I think its you who has misread what steveo posted, that I had referenced.

2 BS. I bet you never told a lie neither.
(Help clarify for Steveo)

3. 19x is banned, didn't know that, thought he just stopped posting. He posted after Kev0 & Jocky stopped. Real shame to lose another poster.

4. some people you like & you. How principled.

5. See 1. Thats what Steveo posted about me. Whislt he didn't explicitly call for me to be banned, I'm glad to see you could at least infer that much, even if you mistakenly thought I posted that about you. It was cited as it is similar to your post, that you requested as proof. I hope that clarifies your own post for you.

6. Plenty of ye responded in the WCM thread and you showed your level of tolerance there for debate once again. You pay some attention to my posts, amazingly missing others posts consistently. It seems you even pay so much attention to me, you needed to add me in with Jocky & Kev0 in your 3 brenvelopes. Everyone knew you meant them, I knew you meant me also, and never cowering in your life, the only confirmation it was me from you was a reply to 19... you think ?
Yes my posts are long and detailed, it's part of having a good debate.

7. Like you were out of the WCM thread, then returned to post. Not only did you read my posts, you read more of them after saying you were out.
As said you offered nothing of note in the WCM thread. You usually walk away at the first sign of a debate or a challenge. The forum is designed to host long posts and debates, its not really limited like twitter/x.

And tbc i said this piece

It's funny how pulling stats, detailed analysis and long posts has come to be the true terror of modern Britons. Educated fools from uneducated schools.

Taksin had the integrity and stamina to offer up a good debate, sadly I've not seen him since demonstrating that the Queen of England would have been open to charges of sports-washing on account of the tarnished reputation related to her nations operations and her own family sex scandals involving minors and Jeffrey Epstein

I held Taksin to task, on the definition and the meaning of words.

If you and your big brain, want to demonstrate your tolerance for discussion and debating/arguing skills, perhaps you can take to the WCM thread and post something of substance.
Given my posts are so long and detailed, maybe divvy it up between yourself and the gang.

Miller just gave you a masterclass in how irrelevant you are. To cap it all off, you’ve hit a new low of absolute desperation by taking a childish playground swipe at him and implying you’ve never told a lie in your entire life. You are a pathological liar who was just caught red-handed fabricating forum history about my family.

Go sit in the corner with your spreadsheets, take another trip back to the Tate, and stop embarrassing yourself.

I was saying that claiming you've never cowered in your life, as Miller did, is BS & is like saying you've never lied in your life, both claims are nonsense statements.

It is to your advantage that the forum has been shredded and search disabled. As shown my memory is pretty solid.