Florian Wirtz

[Nineteenx]

Not Wirtz’s fault whatsoever but shows the absolute folly of trying to install not just any player, but one with a very unique way of playing as a designated playmaker is as I warned when complaining about all the other players being played out of form trying to do so and our title defence written off

Should have played as we did the last 10 years and him just slot into that providing moments of magic here and there through his uniqueness

THE TEAM must make the play for me

[Kev0909]

So..... you can't moan at the midfield with Wirtz in it today, so you find something else

Ok then.... carry on.......

Midfield still shocking without wirtz just incase you didn't notice and didn't exist most of the game.

[Nineteenx]

Grow up Kev I haven’t moaned about it for quite sone time you were moaning at our match winner for most of it

I’m only saying it showed why I thought it stupid to blow our Premier League defence trying to install a designated playmaker

You can be without them as today

They can be man marked

The opposition can set traps to nick it off them and counter

Better the whole team make the play then you don’t have any of those issues that midfield 3 never struggled making the play last season

[JockStrap]

So..... you can't moan at the midfield with Wirtz in it today, so you find something else

Ok then.... carry on.......

Midfield still shocking without wirtz just incase you didn't notice and didn't exist most of the game.

Yep. The amount of work Wirtz gets through off the ball is overlooked. The sooner he is back the better.

[Nineteenx]

Yep. The amount of work Wirtz gets through off the ball is overlooked. The sooner he is back the better.

Not by me I was the first to lavish praise on him for it he’s very good in the press and counter press

[Kev0909]

Grow up Kev I haven’t moaned about it for quite sone time you were moaning at our match winner for most of it

I’m only saying it showed why I thought it stupid to blow our Premier League defence trying to install a designated playmaker

You can be without them as today

They can be man marked

The opposition can set traps to nick it off them and counter

Better the whole team make the play then you don’t have any of those issues that midfield 3 never struggled making the play last season

You telling me to grow up Bahahahaha

mate you're like 60 and act like a obsessive teenager with daddy issues

Carry on, be happy at some point you clown

[Kev0909]

Yep. The amount of work Wirtz gets through off the ball is overlooked. The sooner he is back the better.

but we can't play with him according to this clown, go back to how we was...... without him.... no midfield etc etc, he has commented a lot about it, and formations.

[Nineteenx]

What the fuck ARE you talking about Kev

Don’t have comprehension issues with basic English or something?

I’ve been praising him, he’s in my team every game, I’m very happy we’ve changed to 3 ahead of him and him coming from deeper linking

I’ve been happy with our midfield for a good while now and that he’s starting from midfield and we’re not a forward short

I’ve said all these things Today I made the point about what I said in relation to it being fucking dumb to try and make all your play go predominantly through one player and the first half showed how valid that was

You’re a complete mentalist Kev, you hold onto these things someone once said months or years ago when the player, their position, their contribution has changed massively from thrn abd as such ppls opinions

If you can’t follow the fkn thread maybe keep your massive abusive mouth shut

[JockStrap]

You telling me to grow up Bahahahaha

mate you're like 60 and act like a obsessive teenager with daddy issues

Carry on, be happy at some point you clown

Epic.

[miller0863]

Wirtz did nothing last week v Brighton, there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest the performance would have been any better with Wirtz in the 11.

[JockStrap]

Wirtz did nothing last week v Brighton, there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest the performance would have been any better with Wirtz in the 11.

Always nice to see you support our players and the manager.

The Emperor didn't even play and you're having a go at him.

Top Red.

[Nineteenx]

Wirtz did nothing last week v Brighton, there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest the performance would have been any better with Wirtz in the 11.

He does do a lot without the ball he was our second man working to stop an opponent in lots of different positions all over the pitch, we missed that today as he has quickly got very good in pressing and counter pressing and picking up and we missed him continually showing for the short stuff, but that all showed the folly of trying to make the team tick around one player

Szobo Grav Macca was the best midfield winning the league last season, now several embarrassing losses and points dropped trying to make everything go through Wirtz, it took thrn until the second half to half remember how to play together without him again

You must remember what happened to us sone games MacManaman was successfully man marked

[miller0863]

Not denying he’s been better 19 but I’m not having this nonsense that we were poor because he didn’t play.

I say again, he was poor v Brighton and we were ok without any meaningful contribution from the messiah.

He could well have been just as poor as the rest of them today.

[JockStrap]

Leave him. He's just old and can't see the telly anymore.

What's that grandad? Wirtz? Yea, yea. Want another brew?

That's what you do with old codgers like that.

[Gurthers]

Slot doesn't think the injury is too serious. He felt some muscular pain in his back.

Hope he isn't out too long as we're very thin on the ground.