Slot

[Steveo]

Every direct quote - I stand by today.

Every one. They are all sound as a pound.

Are you listening? ? ?

no… Cloth in your ears and eyes.

Arteta WAS backed far better than Klopp as a matter of fact. His team DID catch up 40 plus points on Jurgen’s side. How - he isn’t in the same class …?

Slot did use Klopp’s best 11 as he has admitted to on camera and it was a massive risk… we got away with.

The club have since all but proved my comment correct on Klopp’s/backing small squad by blowing their wedge this summer and a team you suggest won the title at a canter

AND

Slot will have to perform like Paisley for us to see anything close to the loyalty levels we saw under Klopp.

NOW:

Disconnect your internet for the sake of humanity - you belong in an institution.

[CCTV]

ArtetaFamTVeo, a total ratman, cannot provide one example of the proposed many he claimed already to show a lack of loyalty to Slot.

As usual, talking absolute bollocks.

[CCTV]

Steveo said: (of Grav under Klopp)
11th January 2024 11:40 AM
Looks like an athlete first - footballer second. That isn't enough at Bayern.

Shouldn't be enough here either - but Klopp is such a miracle worker anything is possible. He could end up being a crucial component

https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?309934-Gravenberch

Steveo said: 2nd February 2024 09:44 AM

So let’s win it this season - let’s do it for Klopp.. But don’t think for one second it’s because of great planning OR because we have been brilliant in the market. Klopp is working miracles again. The midfield is not going to terrorise Europe on its own.

https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?308967-The-Midfield-Conundrum/page22

BOBPAISLEYFAN*said:18th August 2024*10:10 PM

Could Zubimendi’s decision be a blessing in disguise for Ryan Gravenberch…
I was unable to watch the live match coverage yesterday so only managed to watch a very poor stop start stream which was so annoying I was unable to get a proper feel for the game or individual performances, in reality all i could truly sense was 2nd half was much better than 1st half if I am being honest…

However, I have managed to see the full match today and what stood out for me, was the overall performance of Ryan Gravenberch playing the number 6 role….

I was simply blown away by how comfortable he looked in that position especially given his indifferent performances last season and it has to be said limited game time. So I have to say I was not expecting that…. and he seemed to just revel playing in that position and you could see his confidence grow with every touch and game involvement…

That performance did not seem possible last season and what stood out for me was how comfortable he looked under pressure, especially in tight spaces and when he wanted too, he glided over the grass and covered the ground so effortlessly with the ball and most of his final passes all seemed so measured and considered, one in particular to Diaz, which was Trentesque was just outstanding…

So in disbelief this afternoon, I looked on youtube and low and behold there it was, a clip of RG playing in a similar midfield position for Ajax and oh my God, he just looked off the scale brilliant.. if you don't believe me take a look for your self, the clip in question is over 8 mins long and is titled…

“ Ryan Gravenberch- Dominating the midfield like Pogba & Busquets “

How Bayern Munich have managed to destroy this lads confidence so comprehensively I have no idea, but seriously if Arne Slot can get Ryan back to those levels in a Red shirt, I am sure that Slot, his fellow team mates and every Liverpool supporter will be simply blown away…

I find it hard to believe that a you tube clip of Zubimendi could surpass the above You tube clip I have watched this afternoon… so maybe, just maybe, his refusal to move to Anfield could well prove to be a blessing in disguise for Slot, LFC and Ryan…. whilst saving LFC £50M+ in the process… Boom !!

I know it was only Ipswich, but tbf to Ryan it was only his first game back in that position for a long time, and given how well he performed under the circumstances, I am genuinely looking forward to see what Arne can do with Ryan in this position over the coming months, if he can get Ryan consistently somewhere close to his form in that particular video, we will have a real monster in our midst… BOOM..😎😎

Fingers crossed eh.. 😎

https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?310531-Could-Zubimendi%92s-decision-be-a-blessing-in-disguise-for-Ryan-Gravenberch%85

Bob is honest.

Steveo said: (of Grav under Slot)
1st December 2024 11:22 PM
Underperformed at Bayern too - might have just realised last summer. It’s time to turn all that potential into the real deal.

Does coincide however with a Dutch manager taking over

https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?309934-Gravenberch/page3

Important to note the too here, underperformed at bayern too. He succeeded at Ajax, underperformed at Bayern, and somewhere else too but turned it around at LFC with the arrival of Slot in summer 2024.

Thereafter Steveo would argue Grav was in Klopps best 11, when Slot won the league, in a desperate bid to attribute Slots success with the same squad to Klopp. Disregarding the impact Slot had at the club. And disregarding the quality squad Klopp handed over to Slot.

A ratman who claims many have already shown a lack of loyalty to Slot, but cannot provide 1 name to back up his BS. Full of shit as usual.

[Steveo]

Oh look... here comes 'F$G Fan Boi' resorting to ever more desperate means to try and prove that what is true isn't true. There's that amazing ability not to accept reality again.

For a kick off I don't recall saying "Gravenberch was in Klopps best 11" I believe the word was "strongest"?.. and the meaning is clear and obvious. I didn't say 'starting' 11 (AFAIK) or best 11 because as we all know he wasn't picked to play nearly as often as we would have liked. As I would have liked.


Klopps best 11 is the best players from Klopp's squad you loon.

AND as I recall last season bar 104 minutes spread across 6 games
3 of which we lost accounting for 79 minutes of his 104...
4 games of which he managed a mahusive 3, 4, 8, 8 minutes respectively

So yet again - I maintain - we bought in 4 new mids in 2023... Only 3 of them do I consider good enough. MacAllister, Szobozlai, Gravenberch. These are the 3 mids I believe and Slots belies are prt of the strongest 11 today.. and they were part of the strongest 11 this time last year.

Here's an article on Klopp's Greatest ever midfield..

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2024/05/picking-jurgen-klopps-greatest-ever-liverpool-xi-longevity-or-ability/

It isn't the same thing as which player played the most minutes..in a given season.. you numpty. Players suffer injury - loss of form - first season stage fright - personal tragedy - fatigue - family issues etc...



NOW TAKE HEED....DISCONNECT THE INTERNET & STOP THE CORPORATE SHILLING!

[CCTV]

Grav was not in Klopps best 11, or strongest 11.

Your posts are there and timestamped just to remind you of the timeline of your posts.

And you have yet to produce one name, as an example of the many you claim have already shown a lack of loyalty to Slot.

[miller0863]

What a meeting that must have been.

So … you know this formation that’s won us 2 Premier Leagues, 2 League Cups, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 Super Cup and 1 World Club Cup and got us to 4 European Finals … you know that ??

Yeahhhh …

Well as well as bringing in 5 first team starters, let’s change the formation.

Yeah?

Yeahhh.
And you know our best and most versatile forward after Salah ….?

Diaz?

Yeahhh.. Shall we sell him but NOT replace him??

Yeah?

Yeah….

Er… also we really need another CB, should we get the England Captain worth about £75m for this knock down price of £50m??

No, let’s see if we can leave it til the end of the window and save £10m

Yeahhhh ok

[Kev0909]

We're far from a crisis yet... but first time slots had real problems and issues to sort imo

Looked terrible tonight, that performance was the worst i've seen in a long time from us 270m in attack or whatever it is and still toothless and have no idea

People that deal with transfers need to get sacked

[Steveo]

What a meeting that must have been.

So … you know this formation that’s won us 2 Premier Leagues, 2 League Cups, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 Super Cup and 1 World Club Cup and got us to 4 European Finals … you know that ??

Yeahhhh …

Well as well as bringing in 5 first team starters, let’s change the formation.

Yeah?

Yeahhh.
And you know our best and most versatile forward after Salah ….?

Diaz?

Yeahhh.. Shall we sell him but NOT replace him??

Yeah?

Yeah….

Er… also we really need another CB, should we get the England Captain worth about £75m for this knock down price of £50m??

No, let’s see if we can leave it til the end of the window and save £10m

Yeahhhh ok

Sound points well made.

[Kev0909]

"We're not so far off last season," insisted the Reds boss. "We've lost twice in a row but the schedule can bring this. Galatasaray away is not an easy game, and we play Chelsea so it's not an easy run.

"I saw a lot of good things. The way we played, the way we controlled the game. In the second half, there wasn't a lot of playing time. Their striker was on the floor, subsitutes, injuries. The referee blew his whistle exactly after eight minutes."


??????????

What game did he watch ?

[teesred]

We're far from a crisis yet... but first time slots had real problems and issues to sort imo

Looked terrible tonight, that performance was the worst i've seen in a long time from us 270m in attack or whatever it is and still toothless and have no idea

People that deal with transfers need to get sacked

Absolutely. This is where he'll start to earn his wages. Like you say not a crisis but clearly some big fucking issues.
We've looked terrible for most of our games aside from Everton, Bournemouth and Atletico for about half an hour in each game. We've looked vulnerable and sloppy.

[CCTV]

Can any of ye explain how you see LFC as the intransigent party when it came to adding players this summer.

Some clubs were easy peasy, done deals. And there were other clubs. Yet ye think LFC messed it up.

Look what it took to get Isak out of Newcastle.

With Guehi, allegedly he had his video to hand for socials.

[Kev0909]

Can any of ye explain how you see LFC as the intransigent party when it came to adding players this summer.

Some clubs were easy peasy, done deals. And there were other clubs. Yet ye think LFC messed it up.

Look what it took to get Isak out of Newcastle.

With Guehi, allegedly he had his video to hand for socials.

If arsenal win it this season, it's because they've got what they've needed and built on it over the last few seasons simple as that.


They even got more depth at CB even though it was covered look like class signings also...

Meanwhile we just go all attack minded and... here we have it couldn't score against a team that's not kept a clean sheet in 24 champs league games and conceded 5 to a average team last CL game, good right, honestly looked like man utd

Why was the guehi the only option? because he's english? was class CB's out there- fuck knows why we needed wirtz over a player that fit in the 3 like we played last season and could rotate, jones and endo aren't the answer.

We've spent what? 270m+ on attack and never looked so toothless

[CCTV]

If arsenal win it this season, it's because they've got what they've needed and built on it over the last few seasons simple as that.


They even got more depth at CB even though it was covered look like class signings also...

Meanwhile we just go all attack minded and... here we have it couldn't score against a team that's not kept a clean sheet in 24 champs league games and conceded 5 to a average team last CL game, good right, honestly looked like man utd

Why was the guehi the only option? because he's english? was class CB's out there- fuck knows why we needed wirtz over a player that fit in the 3 like we played last season and could rotate, jones and endo aren't the answer.

We've spent what? 270m+ on attack and never looked so toothless

Im just asking ye, how ye see transfers like Isak & Guehi as being the clubs fault.

Not paying enough to get deals done earlier when all the delay is from the other side.

We paid €145 million for Isak. Newcastle mentioned over €200 mill.

Valued at his peak of €120 million euro on Transfermarkt.
He was valued at €75 mill at new years.

[jr81]

Im just asking ye, how ye see transfers like Isak & Guehi as being the clubs fault.

Not paying enough to get deals done earlier when all the delay is from the other side.

We paid €145 million for Isak. Newcastle mentioned over €200 mill.

Valued at his peak of €120 million euro on Transfermarkt.
He was valued at €75 mill at new years.

Personally, I wouldn't have bought isak for that price. We had Ekitike and that money could have went elsewhere like a cb and CDM.

Regarding the guehi deal, it has been cited the lateness of our final bid as the stumbling block. If we went in early with the extra 5mil I believe we would have gotten him. We haggled to get a cheaper deal due to his contract situation. Left it late. The manager throw a wobbler (which I don't blame him) and forced the owner to pull the deal. Going in earlier with that extra few mil gets the deal done. My opinion of course.

[Kev0909]

Im just asking ye, how ye see transfers like Isak & Guehi as being the clubs fault.

Not paying enough to get deals done earlier when all the delay is from the other side.

We paid €145 million for Isak. Newcastle mentioned over €200 mill.

Valued at his peak of €120 million euro on Transfermarkt.
He was valued at €75 mill at new years.

Why didn't they go for Guehi earlier?? if palace refused even if we offered a bit more- then we could've moved onto someone else- Thiaw or the guys arsenal have signed- and try get guehi on a free later on.

With isak, I just don't know if we really needed him over a LW like diaz who could play up top and a CDM with that money probably could get both.

I just don't know after spending so much how we're looking so light in quality in midfield, CB and LW diaz didn't get replaced...

Bit of a joke really, in the future we're still going to need a LW unless gakpo actually turns class... doubtful.. a salah replacement X2 cbs and a CDM even after spending all that money.

Transfer team needs to be looked at

For me jones,gakpo,endo can all leave next season and salah if he carry's on like this a year early, assuming konate will be off eitherway also, that's still 4 changes needed in future and how's that going to work with the amount we've spent and FFP? we're screwed