Taxi for Slot

[jr81]

Playing Szobo at rb, when we are lacking energy in midfield is crazy. He is the one that has been good and full of running this year. We had 2 rb in the bench yesterday. None of them got in the pitch. Just shows how much slot rates them. But surely putting one of them or even Jones at rb so Szobo gives us the energy in midfield, is the better option.

This for me is where slot is being poor. His decision making this year doesn't make sense.

Asking grav to get forward more is another one. When are clearly struggling to keep a clean sheet. We should be tightening up. Not getting more expansive.

[jr81]

Yeah. Konate has looked worse this season. Was never that great. Whole team looks like a mixture of complacency and cluelessness

Doku pen against us 2 weeks ago. He cuts in from the left along the byline and gets a pen due to poor defending.

Forest 2nd goal yeatserday. Cuts in from the byline on the left and pulls back for an open player due to poor defender.

Teams are actively hitting our right side due to Konate and a different right full every game. Slot needs to do something, soon.

[Nineteenx]

Konate is good in the 433 with the high line playing one v one with pressing and pressure on the ball ahead of him

He’s the best option we gave to play alongside Virgil

[jr81]

Konate is good in the 433 with the high line playing one v one with pressing and pressure on the ball ahead of him

He’s the best option we gave to play alongside Virgil

Agreed, but he is playing crap this year. Regardless of formation, he is missing simple tackles and giving the ball away from simple passes.

[RedMagic]

It seems that many people are putting a lot of the blame on individual players be it existing players such as VVD and Salah whose performance levels have fallen off a cliff, or new players such as Wirtz, Isak and Kerkez, all of whom have yet to put in any meaningful performances. However given that effectively the performance levels of the entire squad have been poor, I think the problem is more than individual players either simply being over the hill, not being bothered, or not being up to speed or even suitable for us or the league.

We have been piss poor since the backend of last season. That was before we signed the likes of Wirtz, Isak and Kerkez. Also up to that point Salah had be brilliant, whilst the likes of VVD, Mac Allister, Szoboszlai, Gravenberch etc were all playing well. Nobody can convince me that all of our players have all suddenly massively declined in quality at the same time, and that most, if not all of the players we bought are not good enough or suitable enough to play in the PL for us.

There is only one unifying factor or in this case one person that links all our players, and that is Slot. You only have to look at the way he sets us up, the players he uses or doesn't use, the things he says, and what he does when things are going pear shaped to realise that the blame for our predicament is liable to be down to one man, Slot.

Slot just doesn't look or sound like somebody who has the tactical nous, gravitas or motivational skills needed to get the best out of our players or to get them going when they need a proverbial kick up the arse. Klopp was someone who could inject energy and desire into players, even those who were running on empty, or those who weren't exactly world beaters. Slot currently looks and sounds like the exact opposite in that he may well be sucking the life out of the players, something that is making our players look like they're over the hill, not trying, or simply aren't good enough.

I for one wouldn't be surprised if the players performance levels jumped dramatically if they had someone potentially less draining leading them. It will be interesting to see if I'm right should Slot get the boot.

[Lenouis]

Slot reminds me of Rodgers. Pick 11 players, send them out. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. Well just do the same next game.

[RedMagic]

Slot reminds me of Rodgers. Pick 11 players, send them out. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. Well just do the same next game.

I've previously said the same on here. The best example of their approach is when we played Aston Villa in the FA cup and Rodgers just chucked everything at the wall hoping some of it would stick. Both he and Slot also have a propensity to say some highly questionable things in their interviews and press conferences, especially when they lose games or are under pressure.

[teesred]

Slot reminds me of Rodgers. Pick 11 players, send them out. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t. Well just do the same next game.

Yep. Same with his subs. It's just playing bingo and hoping for the best.
Obviously lots of people are saying he'll see the season out etc but the main issue amongst all this utter sorry state of affairs is there's absolutely nothing whatsoever to suggest anything will change and then just blurting out crazy ramblings in post match pressers.
Very much like how it ended for Rodgers.

There's just a malaise there that's very difficult to remedy, a few of us said so weeks ago, players not taking responsibility and looking around for someone else to do the graft. They've collectively dropped off and it's caved the whole thing in.

You wonder how long it'll go on but the heat will die down if we beat PSV in the week. Aslong as they stay close to the top four he'll remain in place. If we start drifting from that then something will be done.

[RedMagic]

I don't think the heat will die down even if we beat PSV handsomely. The Eredivisie is currently a pile of wank. Things will either stay the same should we best PSV, or the pressure on Slot will increase even more if we don't take all three points.

[fiordearg]

Arne won the league and anybody who is involved in sport knows that was not luck. Jurgen won one title in 7.years, so close,so often. Rafa never won it or Ged. Why are people fed up with Slot? 1. He always seemed a bit too smooth last season which is generally not a trait common for Liverpool managers 2. He ditched players or treated them poorly like Elliot Chiesa and Endo, which is something Klopp would never do. 3
He got a larger chequebook than any manager in our history and it looks like the money had been misspent. 4. Our transitions are slow and we lack urgency in our play, something Klopp always had except when his team reached its end. 5. He doesn't relate to the supporters like Klopp

[Steveo]

Look, let's call this what it is.. That title is Klopp's, second time around. To hang it all on Arne Slot’s debut is utterly disrespectful to nine years of groundwork.

Were any of you actually watching the send-off? The man didn't just walk off and resign, he gave a direct, emotional order to the entire club - the players, the Kop, everyone - to get in line behind Slot. He handed over a very small but perfectly formed, high-performance machine. A team of winners with the work ethic ONLY Jurgen could instil.

However- do you really believe that team, without the constant media noise around City's 115 charges, gets anywhere near them? No chance.

The Arsenal bar. And they're suddenly beating an Arsenal side that, frankly, was better than the one that took 89 points the season before? They suffered multiple injuries to key players time and again. Come on..

Our injury luck..We were blessed! Our starting 11 had a near-perfect run on the treatment table while every serious rival was getting absolutely hammered with knocks. That is not tactics; that is pure, unadulterated cosmic alignment.

Slot inherited the final, perfect bloom of the Klopp system. He didn't build a damn thing. He just pressed 'Go' on a lineup and midfield that had just finally gelled after a full season.

He technically won the league, yes, but anyone genuinely claiming he's the reason is being delusional and massively generous.

This summer's confession can be seen through the club’s actions - confirms everything!

If Slot was such a genius, why did the board immediately panic and give him a transfer budget bigger than Klopp ever saw? They practically admitted, through their wallets, that the squad needed major surgery despite winning the title. The wane was evident before the season was out, once that title was won.. Many were done.

That desperation to spend massively proves they knew that win was a flashpoint - a glorious, final, emotional payoff to the Klopp era that cannot be repeated without huge investment. Arne had far less to do with who came in and who went out than people want to believe.

The whole thing screams of a final, beautiful gift from the outgoing boss.

[RedMagic]

Fiord, until near the end of his tenure, Klopp had a net spend per season of around £30m. Despite that and inheriting a load of shite, he posted two of the top four highest ever PL points totals, missed out on the title twice by a point to a team that both bought and cheated their way to their titles (in one of those close seasons they had two 100% incorrect penalty decisions go in their favour), and he made three CL finals, losing one due to Ramos purposely injuring out best player and our goalkeeper, and we lost another final due to UEFA the French authorities and local police causing pre game chaos, never mind that Courtois had one of his superhuman games.

Everybody could see that unlike Klopp, Slot inherited a very good squad. On top of that other teams dropped off and Gravenberch turned out to be a revelation in a deeper role. Despite winning the title many people said that we'd see how good Slot actually was once he faced some adversity and put his own stamp on the team. Well since those two things have occurred Slot has thus far shown that he's not up to the task, and he's given more credence to the argument that he massively benefited from the squad he inherited.

This is the squad that Slot inherited -

Alisson Becker, Vitezslav Jaros, Caoimhin Kelleher, Harvey Davies, Joe Gomez, Virgil Van Dijk, Ibrahima Konate, Kostas Tsimikas, Andy Robertson, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Jarell Quansah, Conor Bradley, Waturo Endo, Dominik Szoboszlai, Alexis Mac Allister, Curtis Jones, Harvey Elliot, Ryan Gravenberch, Tyler Morton, Luis Diaz, Darwin Nunez, Mohamed Salah, Cody Gakpo.


This is the squad that Klop inherited -

Nathaniel Clyne, Kolo Toure, Dejan Lovren, James Milner Christian Benteke, Philippe Coutinho, Roberto Firmino, Joe Gomez, Jordan Henderson, Daniel Sturridge, Mamadou Sakho, Alberto Moreno, Steven Caulker, Adam Lallana, Lucas Leiva, Simon Mignolet, Emre Can, Joe Allen, Tiago Ilori, Divock Origi, Danny Ings, Cameron Brannagan, Jordan Ibe, Adam Bogdan, Kevin Stewart, Martin Skrtel, Jon Flanagan, Ryan Kent, Brad Smith, Jordan Rossiter, Jerome Sinclair, Danny Ward, Joao Carlos Teixieira, Sheyi Ojo, Connor Randall, Joe Maguire, Sergio Canos, Pedro Chirivella, Jose Enrique.

Klopp inherited a load of crap and transformed them into a team of winners that everybody feared. Slot inherited a team of winners (including a world cup winner) and managed to win a league title before he could put his stamp on things and quickly turn the team into a laughing stock that nobody fears playing.

[fiordearg]

I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I just think I'll give the man credit for winning the title. Klopp was unlucky with Man City financially doping and they had Pep. I never warm to Slot personally. I think he's unravelled the culture of togetherness that Klopp fostered

[Steveo]

Defo deserves the credit for that. The job he had, he did to perfection. BUT that job was made miraculously less difficult for him than at any time since Leicester City won the title.

Putting him on that flag on the Kop - Alongside Shankly, Paisley, Jurgen etc…? Men who built successive teams of winners..? within months of Jurgen leaving was imo - poor form, and sadly Karma has followed.

I say this despite the fact that I personally warmed to Arne after his first interview before he arrived.

BUT the beatification of him post title win is a study in how easily football fans ignore context. To hail him as a genius for winning a title in his debut season requires a wilful blindness to the landscape of the league. Not only did he inherit a squad drilled to perfection by Jurgen Klopp, but the seas parted for him completely.

He walked the league because Man City finally imploded under the distraction of 115 charges and the other challenger couldn't field a fit 11 for half the season. This wasn't a masterclass in management; it was the luckiest title run in history. He steered a pre-built ship into an open dock while his rivals were sinking themselves.

No prizes for noticing that the club were fully aware of this. Yes they made a hash of the summer recruitment BUT that was par for the course pre Klopp. The legacy left by Jurgen was the title win. This is the point.

[reddownunder]

Klopp is favourite to be the next manager but I highly doubt he'll be back. Glasner and Iraola are the next best odds