Match Thread Leeds V Liverpool

[Kev0909]

Everyone’s an expert. At least Hugo got a brace

Yeah, not sure why we can't try Hugo on the left, and isak up front can't be any worse, or wherever in that front line, because he'll work hard and track back too, don't think isak would.

[eggy81]

We’ve no wide threat and can’t defend. We’re stuck literally never get in around the back out wide to whip in a cross behind the defence. We’re stuck literally used to be excellent at this. Every othef decent side in the league seem to be almost prioritising crosses and width. We’ve gone so narrow and the players we have don’t look suited to trying to change it up.

[Steveo]

Yeah, not sure why we can't try Hugo on the left, and isak up front can't be any worse, or wherever in that front line, because he'll work hard and track back too, don't think isak would.

…is the logic of a drunk…. Reward Hugo for his brace with moving him out of the way.

Right you are kev… Kevooo

[Gurthers]

Maybe Frimpong can provide the wide threat when he's back. We don't have many options.

[eggy81]

Even with kerkez and Cody on the left side. Kerkez almost always angles his run towards the centre of the box and seldom runs beyond Gakpo and if he does Gakpo uses him as the dummy and always comes back centrally on his right foot. No attempt to work anything between them with a one two or something remotely clever. We’re obsessed with the centre of the pitch. Sane in other side.

[Kev0909]

…is the logic of a drunk…. Reward Hugo for his brace with moving him out of the way.

Right you are kev… Kevooo

if anything it's credit to him as he'll worker harder than him, Isak won't track back I very much doubt, so if eiher of them are going to work it's him, gotta be a better option than Gakpo atm rather get them both in the team.

I barely drink sadly nowadays better stuff to spend money on, I work most of the time and saving for some long holidays next year and enjoy life you know unlike you who's here 24/7 and the only thing in your life is thinking you're a know it all, and stevo knows best on a forum..... what a sad old man you are, maybe you should have a drink.

You've got issues lad, go make up some more lies, you're a joke and getting personal again.... whatever you get your kicks off lad, poor stevo having a mental breakdown, it's ok to talk you know- there's people out there.

Anyway, don't worry i'm not going to entertain you all night, so you'll have to find something else to do or argue with, maybe CCTV will post soon.

[justme]

Even with kerkez and Cody on the left side. Kerkez almost always angles his run towards the centre of the box and seldom runs beyond Gakpo and if he does Gakpo uses him as the dummy and always comes back centrally on his right foot. No attempt to work anything between them with a one two or something remotely clever. We’re obsessed with the centre of the pitch. Sane in other side.

Yep. frustrates the shit out of most of us.. Theres always a worry teams will catch us down the sides if we over commit.. But if we had a natural wide man.. you'd not have to worry about pushing Kerkez past Gakpo. The wide man could do it himself..
Maybe playing Gakpo on the right might help??

[justme]

Mentioning Kerkez hes been decent when hes played of late. Much better than when he first came in.. Ekitike looks an excellent acquisition and though i think Isak doesn't suit playing as a link up player deep if we get the ball in the right areas of the oppositions goal area. he'll get loads of goals

I can't really call Frimpong for obvious reasons, My only doubt is Wirzt. he loses the ball under so little pressure half the time..and looks slow..shame what happened to Leoni.. he looked composed for the time he did play.

[eggy81]

Yep. frustrates the shit out of most of us.. Theres always a worry teams will catch us down the sides if we over commit.. But if we had a natural wide man.. you'd not have to worry about pushing Kerkez past Gakpo. The wide man could do it himself..
Maybe playing Gakpo on the right might help??

We seem far too worried about what happens when we don’t have the ball. Ironically enough we conced goals like fuck when the whole box is packed with players. Being caught short is a problem if you’ve not thought of some sort of tactic like a midfielder covering gaps when full backs bomb forward. Something that was easily achieved with Henderson Fabinho etc. even mcallister did a good job of it previously. I just think we’ve lost the plot altogether tactically and now heads are down and infighting has started.

[Steveo]

if anything it's credit to him as he'll worker harder than him, Isak won't track back I very much doubt, so if eiher of them are going to work it's him, gotta be a better option than Gakpo atm rather get them both in the team.

I barely drink sadly nowadays better stuff to spend money on, I work most of the time and saving for some long holidays next year and enjoy life you know unlike you who's here 24/7 and the only thing in your life is thinking you're a know it all, and stevo knows best on a forum..... what a sad old man you are, maybe you should have a drink.

You've got issues lad, go make up some more lies, you're a joke and getting personal again.... whatever you get your kicks off lad, poor stevo having a mental breakdown, it's ok to talk you know- there's people out there.

Anyway, don't worry i'm not going to entertain you all night, so you'll have to find something else to do or argue with, maybe CCTV will post soon.

Talking your usual guff again lad, I didn’t say you were a drunk kev - I suggested the logic of moving out most potent forward out wide after he scored a brace - and after being dropped while on form for an unfit record signing - is the logic of a drunk.

perhaps, had you listened at school a bit more you’d be able to understand the difference: Paranoia isn’t a good look kev…

[Steveo]

We seem far too worried about what happens when we don’t have the ball. Ironically enough we conced goals like fuck when the whole box is packed with players. Being caught short is a problem if you’ve not thought of some sort of tactic like a midfielder covering gaps when full backs bomb forward. Something that was easily achieved with Henderson Fabinho etc. even mcallister did a good job of it previously. I just think we’ve lost the plot altogether tactically and now heads are down and infighting has started.

We have no midfield control. It’s something I cited after the Arsenal win. Teams can walk into deep areas without much work. Also we don’t have enough concerted control - control to move deep - then wide while maintaining shape - to tire them out. Teams seem to finish stronger than we do. Grav was utilised last season - it worked for a time - but it’s arguably confused how game now. Seems to be caught between two stools.

[justme]

We seem far too worried about what happens when we don’t have the ball. Ironically enough we conced goals like fuck when the whole box is packed with players. Being caught short is a problem if you’ve not thought of some sort of tactic like a midfielder covering gaps when full backs bomb forward. Something that was easily achieved with Henderson Fabinho etc. even mcallister did a good job of it previously. I just think we’ve lost the plot altogether tactically and now heads are down and infighting has started.

exactly so true every bit... maybe like people have said it's over coaching. we are expecting teams to sit deep so we are playing the perfect pass and it's way to slow.. and yep we seem to concede even when we have loads of cover in our box. the second goal this evening was a prime example.we had several players back and they still managed to find enough space to get a goal.

[eggy81]

We have no midfield control. It’s something I cited after the Arsenal win. Teams can walk into deep areas without much work. Also we don’t have enough concerted control - control to move deep - then wide while maintaining shape - to tire them out. Teams seem to finish stronger than we do. Grav was utilised last season - it worked for a time - but it’s arguably confused how game now. Seems to be caught between two stools.

100%. The counter press 19 loves to mention is a huge loss to our game at the minute. But something so beautifully co ordinated, as it is a high risk high reward strategy can’t be deployed to any great effect by a side that isn’t functioning supremely well. Agree we look slow and almost unfit to a degree but I’d wager it’s mental fatigue and pure brain fog that is influencing that more than physical fitness. Lads just don’t know what’s going on. That’s why we concede so easily and give up leads like tonight. Takes fuck all to knock us for 6.

[justme]

We have no midfield control. It’s something I cited after the Arsenal win. Teams can walk into deep areas without much work. Also we don’t have enough concerted control - control to move deep - then wide while maintaining shape - to tire them out. Teams seem to finish stronger than we do. Grav was utilised last season - it worked for a time - but it’s arguably confused how game now. Seems to be caught between two stools.

I think thats to do with what midfield is out there. Macca and Dom pressed and were quick off the front man last season. (not meaning to have a go at Wirzt again) but to get him into the game. we over pass.. we do control games . without really creating anything..we had something like 80% of the ball at one point.. last season Dom pressed and Macca dropped back with Grav.. Then Macca pressed and Dom dropped back. it was very fluid. always moving the ball quicker.. but with Wirzt in there. if you dont get the play right you are open to plenty of counter attacks.. Wirzt is not A Macca or Dom player.

[Kev0909]

Mentioning Kerkez hes been decent when hes played of late. Much better than when he first came in.. Ekitike looks an excellent acquisition and though i think Isak doesn't suit playing as a link up player deep if we get the ball in the right areas of the oppositions goal area. he'll get loads of goals

I can't really call Frimpong for obvious reasons, My only doubt is Wirzt. he loses the ball under so little pressure half the time..and looks slow..shame what happened to Leoni.. he looked composed for the time he did play.

Yeah seeing what i've seen Kerkez looked good today- pretty hard for him with Gakpo in front of him going forward, hopefully we get a LW at some point or try Ekiteke there and hopefully works well.