The Midfield

[Nineteenx]

Deserving of it’s own thread interested to hear everyone’s views on the No6 double pivot and single pivot

Grav was excellent at No6 last season but that was in a midfield 3 and before anyone pipes up I watched an hour long feature yesterday with Owen Hargreaves interviewing Grav about it, loads of footage involved clearly showing the 3

It hasn’t worked as a double pivot for me and it’s a huge part of why we’ve been so poor in the press counter press and picking up

Macca seems to have been our main ball winner and interceptor

Interest to know everyone’s options and preferences I’d prefer 433 with a false 9 it works in this league and was hugely successful for 10 years for us and I didn’t see any reason to change that

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Grav’s stats

Attack
Goals
4
XG
1.41
XA
1.89
Shots On Target Outside the Box
14
Touches in the Opposition Box
21
Hit Woodwork
1
Possession
Passes (Completed %)
1,544 (90%)
Long Passes (Completed %)
65 (29%)
Physical
Minutes Played
2,341
Dribbles (Completed %)
41 (56%)
Duels Won 122
Aerial Duels Won 23
Defence
Total Tackles
45
Interceptions
37
Blocks
9

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Macca

Attack
Goals 2
XG 3.14
XA 1.24
Shots On Target Inside the Box
12
Shots On Target Outside the Box
13
Touches in the Opposition Box
46
Hit Woodwork 2
2
Crosses (Completed %)
10 (20%)
Possession
Passes (Completed %)
1,082 (86%)
Long Passes (Completed %)
71 (49%)
Corners Taken 9

Physical
Minutes Played
2,005
Dribbles (Completed %)
22 (36%)
Duels Won 88
Aerial Duels Won 12

Defence
Total Tackles 43
Interceptions 16
Blocks 7
Discipline
Red Cards 0
Yellow Cards 4
Fouls 21

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Szobo

Attack
Goals 4
XG 3.66
XA 4.59
Shots On Target Inside the Box
7
Shots On Target Outside the Box
23
Touches in the Opposition Box
52
Penalties (Scored)
1
Hit Woodwork
1
Free Kicks (Scored)
10 (10)
Crosses (Completed %)
59 (24%)
Possession
Passes (Completed %)
1,673 (88%)
Long Passes (Completed %)
156 (63%)
Corners Taken 69
Physical
Minutes Played
2,423
Dribbles (Completed %)
37 (59%)
Duels Won 100
Aerial Duels Won 15

Defence
Total Tackles 42
Interceptions 18
Blocks 8

Discipline
Red Cards 1
Yellow Cards 6
Fouls 25
Offsides 1

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Wirtz

Attack
Goals 4
XG 5.7
XA 4.13
Shots On Target Inside the Box
17
Shots On Target Outside the Box
11
Touches in the Opposition Box
124
Hit Woodwor 1
Free Kicks (Scored 1 (1)
Possession
Passes 1,117 (84%)
Long Passes (54 (52%)
Corners Taken 19

Physical
Minutes Played
1,861
Dribbles (Completed %)
60 (57%)
Duels Won 84
Aerial Duels Won 5

Defence
Total Tackles 28
Interceptions 8
Blocks 1

Discipline
Red Cards 0
Yellow Cards 1
Fouls 18
Offsides 2

These are Prem stats

[Ravo19]

Not keen in 4 2 3 1 and klopp pointed out it asks a lot of the two 6s,that said there are clubs that make it work.macallister is to slow to be a 6 and i would go with gravenberch and dom.
The issue next season will be getting our best players on the pitch,new DM,salah replacement,isak,wirtz,ekitikie,szobo and that means making the 4 2 3 1 work.
Imo we might have to sacrifice one of jones or mac to fund/fit a new DM.
Who would people move on jones or macallister?

[sydenham red]

Not keen in 4 2 3 1 and klopp pointed out it asks a lot of the two 6s,that said there are clubs that make it work.macallister is to slow to be a 6 and i would go with gravenberch and dom.
The issue next season will be getting our best players on the pitch,new DM,salah replacement,isak,wirtz,ekitikie,szobo and that means making the 4 2 3 1 work.
Imo we might have to sacrifice one of jones or mac to fund/fit a new DM.
Who would people move on jones or macallister?

Macca has been world class and we'd all hope he can get back up there, Jones has never reached that level despite putting in infrequent very good performances. The level Liverpool should be aspiring too would see Jones as a squad player. If we can't afford both I'd sell Jones

[Ravo19]

Macca has been world class and we'd all hope he can get back up there, Jones has never reached that level despite putting in infrequent very good performances. The level Liverpool should be aspiring too would see Jones as a squad player. If we can't afford both I'd sell Jones

Thats one for jones.
Might come down to who we can get more money for,mac imo not suited to being one of the 6s and if 4 3 3 not being a option he might get frozen out.

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Not keen in 4 2 3 1 and klopp pointed out it asks a lot of the two 6s,that said there are clubs that make it work.macallister is to slow to be a 6 and i would go with gravenberch and dom.
The issue next season will be getting our best players on the pitch,new DM,salah replacement,isak,wirtz,ekitikie,szobo and that means making the 4 2 3 1 work.
Imo we might have to sacrifice one of jones or mac to fund/fit a new DM.
Who would people move on jones or macallister?

Not going to work with 2 No9’s got to be 433 hopefully Slit’s gone he needs to start working on Ekitike playing inside LFWD & false 9 too

The midfield I want a 3 it’s already showed Wirtz can’t play as a third forward so we have to go with a 3 and him roaming from LCM as Countinho did for me

Make it like two 8’s/10’s ahead of Grav - Wirtz left Szobo right

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Thats one for jones.
Might come down to who we can get more money for,mac imo not suited to being one of the 6s and if 4 3 3 not being an option he might get frozen out.

Neither will be going anywhere Jobes is HG & were well short of HG which is another area Slot and Hughes fucked yo not get Semenyo and Guehi in the summer

[Ravo19]

Neither will be going anywhere Jobes is HG & were well short of HG which is another area Slot and Hughes fucked yo not get Semenyo and Guehi in the summer

If slot keeps his job then its 4 2 3 1 and if buying a DM it would mean jones,gravenberch,mac spending most of season on bench,we could easily cash in on one

[Kev0909]

If slot keeps his job then its 4 2 3 1 and if buying a DM it would mean jones,gravenberch,mac spending most of season on bench,we could easily cash in on one

Probably why we won't sign a DM, if we're not desperate we don't bother, only sign anyone when we really need it, I mean look at january window- could've really done with a addition in battle for europe, but we didn't bother because we had players to cover x y z unless a team comes in for Szob

Endo will go Bajčetić will probably take his role, if he can stay fit at all to play a couple of minutes sometimes.. big ask for the lad though, shame another young lad ruined by injury's

[Ravo19]

Probably why we won't sign a DM, if we're not desperate we don't bother, only sign anyone when we really need it, I mean look at january window- could've really done with a addition in battle for europe, but we didn't bother because we had players to cover x y z

Konate signing.
Replacement for salah.
Buy DM.
Extension for robbo.
would be a perfect window.

[Nineteenx]

Konate signing.
Replacement for salah.
Buy DM.
Extension for robbo.
would be a perfect window.

We need LFWD & RFWD

if we play 433 we might sign a No6

We kind of are playing 433 or 4213 in a lot of phases were better with 3 forwards up

We’re in an odd situation in that Wirtz is now midfield rather than a forward

[miller0863]

A perfect window would have to include a replacement for Gakpo as well.