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  • #91
    Interesting selection dilemma in midfield for tonight’s game v Galatassary as Wirtz is only just back from injury and the midfield has been doing well in his absence and Gakpo and Mo have both scored goals
    "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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    • #92
      He'll be on the bench I'd imagine dear friend 19x.

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      • #93
        Well they actually improve with Wirtz coming from deeper

        Then improved without him with Gakpo false 9

        Then had a mare tonight with him playing as a forward
        "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Nineteenx View Post
          Well they actually improve with Wirtz coming from deeper

          Then improved without him with Gakpo false 9

          Then had a mare tonight with him playing as a forward
          Wirtz played on left a position that doesnt suit him.
          But our title winning manager knows best.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Ravo19 View Post
            Wirtz played on left a position that doesnt suit him.
            But our title winning manager knows best.
            No idea why he did that, this is my issue with him he won’t accept what he dreamt up hasn’t worked and won’t and keeps trying to go back to it

            If he’d accepted that despite his formation change the players naturally slipped into 433 a lot of the time and that win the league and recruited for that we’d be top of the league

            If he would just accept his idea hasn’t worked and stayed 433 as he played for 3 games and stuck to it we’d be in the race and every time he dies it it disrupts what was beginning to work and gel and like starting over

            With Wirtz out the players were just settling into playing more like the 433 with 3 forwards again regardless of what the line up says it is on paper

            Then changes it and we have a disastrous showing again
            "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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            • #96
              Clear as day we played 4231 last year and this year.

              Big problems for Slot and us, are the big players.

              Alisson missing games.

              Konate dropped off.
              VVD unrecognisable.

              MacA unrecognisable.

              Gakpo dropped off.
              Salah unrecognisable.

              Thats 6 of our title winning squad.

              The fullbacks

              Whoever has played instead of Trent not a major issue. Injuries have been.

              Kerkez done fairly well in his debut season. Most wanted him signed up.

              Midfield
              Grav & Sobozla have had decent seasons, Sobozla has tailed off in recent times, his head a bit too big.

              Ekitike has been better than Diaz.

              Wirtz has done well in his debut season.

              As far as Im concerned the performance has been miles off the quality at Slots disposal.

              Looks like a rotten camp, and Slot was undermined massively by Salah and then less so by MacA. I'd include VVD in an undermining 3. Amazing to me how VVD has largely escaped the firing squad, his leadership on the pitch and off it this year, miles off last seasons.

              All the talk is Alonso coming in, his boys Frimpong & Wirtz look like they have the right attitudes.
              Were I Alonso, MacA & Salah are gone this summer. Konate probably leaves for real or psg, and VVD stays.

              The next manager needs to rip out the Player FC vibes that have ruined our season.
              A season where everyone was expected to give their utmost for the club and to remember Jota with some honour.
              Saddest thing about this season is the PL, and how easily we could have stumbled right back into a title challenge and never managed to get back in the mix. So many opportunities missed.

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              • #97
                That's an excellent summary of the season so far. One correction

                Were I Alonso, MacA & Salah are gone this summer.

                No matter who the manager is, Macca and Salah need binned in the summer. They have been a waste of space all season.

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                • #98
                  Wirtz is a good player but only suited to being a 10 or maybe false 9,he could play firminos role in a 4 3 1 2 this season but next season i would be looking at getting our best players on the pitch,isak,wirtz,szobo,salah's replacement that would still lean towards a 4 2 1 3/4 2 3 1.

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                  • #99
                    https://x.com/cbssportsgolazo/status/2031535150492721292?s=48&t=C0E1_A2dzMGyQOScprQI_w
                    He's not wrong.

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                    • Weaponry.

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                      • Originally posted by Ravo19 View Post
                        Wirtz is a good player but only suited to being a 10 or maybe false 9
                        He could (and in the instance we go 4-3-3, should) play the left-sided 8 in a 4-3-3 set-up given how well we thrives in the left half-space.

                        It's there in a 4-3-3 or as the 10-role in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-4-2 Diamond which I still think could be excellent with the right balance. Kerkez and Frimpong are certainly capable of providing that width.
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                        • Originally posted by Insidious View Post
                          He could (and in the instance we go 4-3-3, should) play the left-sided 8 in a 4-3-3 set-up given how well we thrives in the left half-space.

                          It's there in a 4-3-3 or as the 10-role in a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-4-2 Diamond which I still think could be excellent with the right balance. Kerkez and Frimpong are certainly capable of providing that width.
                          Wirtz is inefective on the left,been pointed out by better people than me

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                          • Absolutely nothing wrong with bulding the side around Wirtz as the 10 in a 4231. Need to positionally sort the 4 and 8 behind him and an more effective wingers.

                            However, with the players we have and in form a diamond or 4312 seems like such an obvious solution. Remove the wingers and have the fullbacks providing the width.

                            It's be closer to how Xabi set us up, should we be looking at him in the summer of course...

                            Ali
                            Frimpong - Konate - VVD - Kerkez
                            Grav
                            Szobo - Jones
                            Wirtz
                            Salah - Ekitike
                            Something, Something, Something, Dark Side

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                            • Originally posted by jozza800 View Post
                              Absolutely nothing wrong with bulding the side around Wirtz as the 10 in a 4231. Need to positionally sort the 4 and 8 behind him and an more effective wingers.

                              However, with the players we have and in form a diamond or 4312 seems like such an obvious solution. Remove the wingers and have the fullbacks providing the width.

                              It's be closer to how Xabi set us up, should we be looking at him in the summer of course...
                              Everything wrong with it, one greatest strength under Jurgen was the team the entire team was the star collective responsible for making the play making things happen and making the difference you don’t build a team around anyone it makes you far weaker

                              That’s in a way what Slot has done to the mentality 10 players looking for someone else to make it happen instead of taking responsibility to make it happen

                              He’s also not good enough for that not Bobby level not Modric level not dynamic enough, looks stylised plays some cute balls most of don’t come off never grabbed one game by the scruff of the neck yet

                              Robbo did that v Wolves and showed exactly why we were the mentality monsters under Jurgen and so good and so strong and gets benched for it because Slot is an egomaniac cobtrol freak

                              This is absolute shit from what we had and it’s all about his mentality and we need rid of it
                              "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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                              • I didn't say what Slot was doing was right. I said, if set up properly then there's nothing wrong with 4231.
                                Something, Something, Something, Dark Side

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