Other F A Cup Quarters

[redebreck]

04/04/26
Chelsea whip Port Vale 7-0
Arsenal currently losing 2-1 against Saints (90 + 5)

[miller0863]

F/T Southampton 2-1 Arsenal

That’s taken the edge off a little

[Jenson78]

Looks like City will now go on to win the double.

[justme]

I can see Arsenal bottling the lot. even the league.

[Insidious]

F/T Southampton 2-1 Arsenal

That’s taken the edge off a little

That's good fun!

[justme]

We;ve seen it before when Man-city win all their remaining league fixtures. and the Arsenal fixture at home. Can anyone honestly see Arsenal winning enough league games?? i think, they'll falter in at least 2 of the remaining fixtures.

[miller0863]

Oh the hilarity if Arsenal bottle all four

[redebreck]

Oh the hilarity if Arsenal bottle all four

Ja, ja, ja, ja

[Insidious]

Not sure I want to see Man City win yet another League title (they'd be up to 11 if they won) given what they have done to football as a whole, so I'd probably settle for Arsenal winning the League but botching the Champion's League.

Irrespective of what happens in the League, I can't decide what would be funniest in Europe -

- Seeing Arsenal lose to Sporting, given their "weak" status on paper
- Seeing Arsenal lose to Barcelona, 20 years after having lost to them in the Champion's League Final, thus poetically signalling no significant European progress in two decades
- Seeing Arsenal lose to Atletico Madrid in a narrow, physical tie with Atletico Madrid's winner coming courtesy of crowding out Arsenal's goalkeeper at a corner and listening to Arsenal TV types whining about obstruction for weeks
- Seeing Arsenal get spanked by PSG in the Final after they spend some time taking the piss out of us for losing to Enrique's side

Bonus option that won't happen - seeing Arsenal finish second in the League and then lose to us in the Champion's League Final courtesy of yet another long-range free-kick from Szoboszlai.

[Steveo]

I will be supporting City in the league all the way. Sadly - the Arsenal going out means less games for them and more distraction for City.

Personally - I cannot stand the thought of Arteta with a Premier league title. Something about him I find revolting. I never felt like this about Arsenal before him… It’s almost United levels of loathing

[miller0863]

My viewpoint is Sid, City have cheated their way to their current position and EVERYONE knows it so what does it matter what they win??

Every single trophy under the current ownership has an asterisk *.

But I don’t want Arsenal looking too good, we’re going to find it hard enough to attract players as it is.

[justme]

There are "rumours" Man-city will be deducted 60 points next season.. so if they win the title that will be it for them after that.
Like Steveo said. Theres something about Lego Head i can't stand. And I hate Martinelli with a passion. He falls over under any contact and had the nerve to literally drag Bradley off the pitch when Bradley had a serious injury.

[Insidious]

My viewpoint is Sid, City have cheated their way to their current position and EVERYONE knows it so what does it matter what they win??

Every single trophy under the current ownership has an asterisk *.

But I don’t want Arsenal looking too good, we’re going to find it hard enough to attract players as it is.

Respect that viewpoint miller - it's shared by many - I just happen to "agree to disagree" on it as Man City's influence on football has had massive ramifications not just on those who missed out on League titles to them, but those sides that missed out on European spots, foreign sides that got knocked out by them in the Champion's League (impacting revenues and ability to compete etc) and those that lost out on Domestic Cup opportunities or lost players etc etc - the "ripple effect" caused by a club like that is absolutely massive and has all stemmed from cheating.

So for me it's "entity that have arguably caused massive damage to the entire sport that could negatively impact it for decades" versus "that Arteta lad is a bit of a twat isn't he?" - and as much as I can't stand the sight of aul' Captain Black, I'll begrudgingly accept their lot winning a title versus someone like Man City.

Their titles may have an asterisk on them, but that doesn't mean the runners-up in those years are perceived as winners, nor does it help those sides with recruitment when they're denied the chance to hold that recruitment appeal of being a club that players can join to become League Champions - or indeed the financial benefits that aid the practical side of the recruitment.

It matters what they win because others are consistently denied. We should, by all rights, be sitting on 22 League titles by now - and Klopp should have 3 of them to his name.

We have different stances on it and I don't think you'll change my mind, nor I change yours - absolutely fine. It might be one of those things I struggle to shut up on periodically as I struggle to "let it go" on a meritocratic front - we were robbed of titles, others were robbed of some of the other things I've mentioned - is what it is. Hopefully genuine punishments will come eventually and I will reiterate that my occasional info-dump rants on the Man City subject are never "aimed" directly at you or anyone else who holds them, it's just one of those things that I get a bit ".......really?" about in life - and that's on me, absolutely on me - genuinely no desire to change your mind.

Some subjects make people shout at the wind about them and Man City getting to where they are having impacted football in the way they have happens to have been one of mine for a while. I can't help it - I'll try to work on being quieter about it on here mind, as I appreciate it's repetitive.

As to Arsenal, I guess my take is they always had the London pull, were better than us for many of the years I've been a fan (yet we still had plenty of excellent players to watch) so for me them winning a League won't make THAT much difference to our recruitment as they can only register a 25-man squad anyway. I can't see them winning a League making life much worse than Man City stealing their various titles, being able to throw £300k contracts at people due to sponsors that don't exist, or Chelsea signing lads up to 8-year deals. There will always be lads wanting to join Liverpool, even if some of them are just doing so for a couple of years before joining Real Madrid.

But I could be wrong. One thing I do know is that Arsenal, whilst admittedly a pain in the ass at times, are overall pretty "legit" and thus I can begrudgingly live with them in a way that I can't when it comes to an entity like Man City.

But like I said, I'll try and shush a bit more on the subject for the rest of the season.

[miller0863]

Fair enough Sid, never going to fall out with you for taking a different perspective on something.

[miller0863]

Fantastic game going on between West Ham and Leeds.
Leeds lead 2-0 going into injury time but West Ham clawed their way back into it to level it with goals on 93 and 96 minutes.

It has been breathless with 20 attempts at goal each with 15 minutes of extra time left and the teams still level at 2-2.

Incredible energy levels from both teams much more than we have shown in any game this season and these two are in a relegation battle