The Winds of Change

[teesred]

What worries me the most are the reports that FSG want to give him next season to try and put things right. Pearce has reported this today, saying CL qualification is the target and the FA cup exit hasn't impacted any decisions.

Like you say above regarding all the downtrending metrics, what exactly is there to suggest this guy is going to turn this around?
There's isn't one single piece of evidence, there's more evidence than enough to suggest he'll tank us even further.

[redebreck]

Deffo needs to go. Also Hughes and Edwards.
Failed to recruit a replacement CB - there seems to have been plenty of opportunity to pick up Guehi.
Diaz should have stayed - look at his performances in the Bundesliga.
As has already been said on here, our conditioning is piss poor. Almost every team we play has been out-running us.
There's no fight in the squad. No belief.

[miller0863]

All three failed in their roles individually and collectively last summer and since then have seemed absolutely oblivious as to their shortcomings

[Insidious]

What worries me the most are the reports that FSG want to give him next season to try and put things right. Pearce has reported this today

Speculating aplenty on my part here, but I wonder if we might have a verbal agreement in place with Alonso for starting next season, but he has a personal incentive not to be taking on a job before a season is finished.

Whether that's not wanting to join a dressing room in a low spot (Real Madrid wouldn't have been happy campers when they botched the club World Cup for example) or maybe some financial-related contract thing, where he (more speculation) gets less severance pay if he were to join a club before next season due to some stipulation or other.

It'll all come out in the wash soon enough you'd think, whatever happens.

I can understand people at Boardroom level thinking it's been a fairly exceptional season for a Manager to succeed (the impact of the Jota loss is very hard to quantify) but you'd still have to see signs of shoots of recovery within the side and we have been ranging between distinctly average and shockingly poor for about 13 months now with no immediate sign of turning that around.

[Insidious]

Mentioned in another thread but the continued rise of Cesc Fabregas and what is Como side are managing to achieve is really, really impressive.

Definitely has something about him. We could end up seeing Como in the Champion's League at this rate, which would be absolutely wild.

His sides are also known to be a decent watch.

I would not be surprised to see him given a chance at Chelsea or Barcelona in the coming years - indeed maybe Arsenal if Arteta decides to job-hop at some point.

I wouldn't have him as my no. 1 candidate for the Liverpool job or anything, but we should probably be "taking a look" at the very least for the future.

[jozza800]

I think the only way FSG fire him is if we miss out on qualifying for next season's CL. I think that they'll likely see this season as a blip and hope to get back on track next season.

I think there will be reasonably heavy investment again in the summer.

Which will be wasted by Slot and he'll be gone in October.

[Ravo19]

I had thought we would have sacked slot in the international break but now think it would have thrown caretaker/new manager in at the very deep end away to city and 2 legs against psg.
Sorry i expect the tie to be over for us tomorrow night and slot to be gone before fulham.

[miller0863]

I sincerely hope you are right but doubt it will happen.

[Ravo19]

I sincerely hope you are right but doubt it will happen.

Fsg have to sit up and take notice on what happened on saturday a embarrassing performance,fans leaving early,fans singing alonso songs.if the next game was saturday against fulham he would be gone now.

[Insidious]

think it would have thrown caretaker/new manager in at the very deep end away to city and 2 legs against psg

I'm obviously not in the professional position to comment, but from a would-be caretaker's side I would be all over a scenario like that.

If results continue to be poor, it isn't perceived to be your fault. If results pick up, you're perceived to have had a positive influence.

Feels like a "no lose" situation to me. Whereas with something like the Spurs job, the perceived player quality is that they absolutely should not be near the relegation zone, which feels much less of a "no lose" situation. A manager could ruin their reputation there.

[Ravo19]

I'm obviously not in the professional position to comment, but from a would-be caretaker's side I would be all over a scenario like that.

If results continue to be poor, it isn't perceived to be your fault. If results pick up, you're perceived to have had a positive influence.

Feels like a "no lose" situation to me. Whereas with something like the Spurs job, the perceived player quality is that they absolutely should not be near the relegation zone, which feels much less of a "no lose" situation. A manager could ruin their reputation there.

While i see your point we need someone to lift the players and fans and new manager would be under preasure from the off getting knocked out if fa cup and CL in his first 2 games.

[Red October]

I can’t take anyone seriously who still says the manager “deserves “ longer to turn it around.

There is absolutely zero evidence of any sort of top level coaching going on at Liverpool never mind the motivational side.

And I can no longer listen to Slot’s embarrassing inane ramblings in press conferences

Haven't listened to him for months. The talking is on the pitch and that's telling us everything. Since he started telling us he couldn't beat low-block teams early in the season, I switched off.

[Ravo19]

Wind of change,since end of 24/25 season we have moved on/lost kelleher,tsimikas,quansah,arnold,elliot,diaz,jota, nunez and could be adding robbo,gomez,macalistair,gapko,salah, likely over 13 players in a 12 month period.

[Red October]

I had thought we would have sacked slot in the international break but now think it would have thrown caretaker/new manager in at the very deep end away to city and 2 legs against psg.
Sorry i expect the tie to be over for us tomorrow night and slot to be gone before fulham.

I very much doubt he'll be gone before the end of the season. He did win the title last season so there's that. The fact that it's been appalling most of this might not seal the deal for the owners. They might be considering mitigating factors. We don't know how they're viewing it. I think qualifying for CL will be the crunch. I just hope they will still see longer term that Slot is not the answer even if we get CL for next year.

[miller0863]

Just a note on Arne’s Title win, not belittling it, more bringing some perspective.

Klopp with numerous injuries, an average Salah and having told everyone he was leaving back in October
Points 82
Goals for 84
Goals against 41

Slot, new manager with an absolutely on fire Mo Salah and few injuries
Points 84
Goals for 84
Goals against 41

Not exactly a massive upturn.

But yeah he won the league. So he deserves a few years and a £billion or two to completely ruin the squad.