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  • #16
    Originally posted by CCTV View Post
    I can accept that living in a more rustic and labour intensive society with good health, family, friends, lower crime could be a preferable lifestyle than how you view/live yours presently.
    My point or claim would be that whether in your circumstance or the other circumstance both are better off today than at other points in history.

    Your condition sounds pretty rare alright 1of 100 people in the world rare, not sure i accept the odds of the lotto just to be pedantic. I cant recall the odds of picking a winner there tbh.

    But at what other point in time do you think would be a better time to be getting treatments. Seems odd to speculate that their would have been better abilities in the 1950s just to go back a shortwhile in human history.
    I can understand your frustration/dissapointment with surgeries being cancelled and the waiting list, but id contend the lack of perfection/betterness of todays system isnt exactly a robust rebuttal of my claim that you are better off today than in any other era.

    Lifes not fair or perfect, indeed, it is a struggle. Can you give some examples, just to get a flavour of who youre talking about ?
    It's not so much about it not being preferable to be alive today than at any point in history (in most ways it obviously is), but more about it not being as perfect/glorious to be alive in this time of perceived medical and technological advancements as some think it is i.e. whilst some things have certainly improved, others are still as problematic as they always have been e.g. medical conditions that still have no cure or effective treatment.

    In terms of the lottery, the odds used to be 1 in 14 million (they still are for 'set for life'), but they rejigged the format and it's now 1 in 45 million. However you get my point. If you factor in just one other condition I have I am effectively/statistically 1 in 7 billion people.

    In terms of 'struggles' it depends who/what you're talking about. In terms of myself, without going into more detail that I should/would like to, just imagine removing almost everything from life that makes life pleasurable and worthwhile, whilst simultaneously having issues with virtually every area of a persons life that are necessary in order to survive, including the most very basic human functions.
    Last edited by RedNoodle; 1 September 2020, 01:44 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by CCTV View Post
      Well in the manner of gratitude, thank you for this article. I read it in full and encountered a new word, convivial, though im not sure it is an apt use in contrast with industrial.

      While theres a lot of discussion and claims in the article i cant but help feel there are 2 glaring errors, having tried to google in search of it as a joke journal to no avail (i still have my suspicions)
      1 batman never said that re mispelling bateman
      2 the thesis that there is a damage of colon via hygiene associated with the modern toilet seems incorrect.

      Were people to use a toilet with greater focus on hygiene, then they would hover over the seat/bowl and squat supporting their own weight.
      I'd argue that it is the hedonistic want of sharing a toilet seat and connecting buttcheeks via the toilet seat that led to the damage of colons and associated cancer not cited in the article. This is a matter of utilisation of the toilet rather than a requirement of using the device, the seat might be alluring but youd want to be a barbarian/daredevil to actually sit on it.

      Having visited a sewerage treatment facility when i was quite young, id suggest that there is a misconception around the resource to waste issue. The facility screeds the resource and actually harvests most of the fecal matter. A mere small percentage diluted in water gets wasted as run off. Important knowledge for fishermen/women/pixiekins to know where these dumping points are.
      Finally if you want to use shit as a manure, youd be far better off using cow shit than human shit.

      I would also like to take a moment of personal privilige to raise the leave no trace concerns over bad pre-industrial forms of shitting.
      For example in canada they have a lot of wilderness visitors in the winter. These people tend to need to take a shite on their trips. They typically just squat and dump. Then when the snow recedes and the flow of water occurs this accumulates in a flow of untreated 'resources' poisoning the water tables.
      The correct method is to dig a trench about 6 inches deep into the soil. Take a shit, cover over shit and depart. The soil, bacteria, will get rid of it in a matter of days.
      Hey there CC didn't realize you were so knowledgeable about how we tend to shit in this vast wilderness..lol !

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