Is world war 3 about to kick off?

[justme]

so just sit back and take it. is that what your saying??

[Daffydd]

so just sit back and take it. is that what your saying??

No.

Wars happen because we separate people, exclude them, see them as 'other', and as separate from 'us', when in reality we are all one humanity, brothers and sisters. One Love. ...but we don't trust love so it is easier to be in fear and exclude 'other' people. and if we see them as 'other' then it is easier to hate and kill them (or to supply weapons for someone else to do the dirty work). Russia and Ukraine have been fighting for years, and we in the West haven't given a damn about them until now that it suits us.

Wars also happen because the masses buy into the old idea of "good guys and bad guys" (more separation), they think: "Russian bad, Ukrainian good" when for sure there are crimes being committed by both sides, just like in any other war you can think of. It's just that we justify the crimes on one side because we separate and identify with one side.

Excluding tennis players from Wimbledon because they are from Russia or Belarus is promoting exclusion and war, it does fuck all to help Ukraine. It further promotes the idea that Russians are 'other', and different to us. It is the same mentality that last century saw the great British public killing German dog breeds that were formerly beloved pets. Crazy.

The more we separate and divide the harder it will be to build peace when this is all over.

[justme]

Peace as never been attained in the entire history of human kind..Right now its not possible and i doubt it ever will be. Be nice to live in a world without war and poverty and hunger.. But right now its not realistic. and all we can do is fight back oppression

[Daffydd]

so just sit back and take it. is that what your saying??

That's the thing, the West has been sitting back and letting Ukraine take it. This conflict has been going on for years and we sat back, if we want world peace then we need to work at it, at least as hard as we work at war.

Peace as never been attained in the entire history of human kind..Right now its not possible and i doubt it ever will be. Be nice to live in a world without war and poverty and hunger.. But right now its not realistic. and all we can do is fight back oppression

Everyone argues that they are fighting back oppression. Putin reckons he is rooting out Nazis in Ukraine.

This week defence minister James Heappey said it was "entirely legitimate" for Ukraine to take the war to Russia and attack military targets on Russian soil, further escalating the war. He said that attacking supply lines is a "legitimate part of war".

What if Putin decides okay, it's legitimate for Russia to attack Ukraine's supply lines too? Like bombing the British towns where anti-tank missiles are made? fair enoughski? This is going to escalate because it is the only way people can see.

[scientificred]

Putin does not like UN but still a member state. UN is failed. Like League of Nations pre WW II.

[scientificred]

Worried about new idea that nuclear power is the way forward. This war in Ukraine is highlighting how fragile and dangerous that technology is.

[scientificred]

I agree, it was won because of them

How our Gov, the US and others are getting involved in this is costing lives and risking an incredibly dangerous escalation, if they'd not interfered, as Ukraine are not part of the EU or NATO and none of them really have any right to get involved and effectively wage war against Russia, just without putting their own troops on the ground, this conflict would already be over, lots of Ukranian civilian lives would have been spared, and the risk of future conflict through NATO trying to expand to positions right on the Russian border removed

Disagree entirely 19x. Putin's initial idea was that Ukraine would humbly submit and then progress further west to restore what was USSR . He failed. It is still his idiotic idea but he cannot be seen to fail. He was stupid and now he has lost lots of soldiers and hardware. He will carry on with this stupidity. He will decimate all of Ukraine and its people. Once they were close. Ukraine had the most nuclear bombs but resolved to give then up in exchange for never being attacked Sooner or later there will be a tactical nuclear bomb. From my understanding that will take our something like a football stadium but the far-reaching impact no-one knows

[Daffydd]

Disagree entirely 19x. Putin's initial idea was that Ukraine would humbly submit and then progress further west to restore what was USSR . He failed. It is still his idiotic idea but he cannot be seen to fail. He was stupid and now he has lost lots of soldiers and hardware. He will carry on with this stupidity. He will decimate all of Ukraine and its people. Once they were close. Ukraine had the most nuclear bombs but resolved to give then up in exchange for never being attacked Sooner or later there will be a tactical nuclear bomb. From my understanding that will take our something like a football stadium but the far-reaching impact no-one knows

Do we know for a fact what Putin's thinking was? The Western media seems intent on portraying him as a madman (as they do with all bogeymen... Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, Kim Jong-un etc) and as stupid. If he's so stupid he should be easy to outwit, no?

[CCTV]

Do we know for a fact what Putin's thinking was? The Western media seems intent on portraying him as a madman (as they do with all bogeymen... Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, Kim Jong-un etc) and as stupid. If he's so stupid he should be easy to outwit, no?

It's a peculiar impression that Putin is seeking to re-form the USSR.
I wonder how such people view him being able to do it ?

[Nineteenx]

It's a peculiar impression that Putin is seeking to re-form the USSR.
I wonder how such people view him being able to do it ?

The propaganda of our media is equally as bad as that of Russia, North Korea or anywhere else

People are far too quick to believe what they tell them or how they portray people or world events

Is Putin paranoid? Almost certainly - Having considerable natural resources and having seen the US aided and abetted by the UK rape loot and pillage the middle east for it's natural resources, based on those nations being a falsified perceived threat, is he right to be paranoid and is it surprising he has decided to take action to try and stop the Ukraine joining NATO and UK, US and other forces building weapons caches and forces on Russia's border, not really in my opinion

[scientificred]

It's a peculiar impression that Putin is seeking to re-form the USSR.
I wonder how such people view him being able to do it ?

Putin bitterly resents the split up of the USSR. Take back Ukraine and arm that new border.
Russia has a new friendship with China. China wants Taiwan back.
North Korea wants South Korea
Serbia is uncomfortable with Kosovo.
I am surmising quite darkly but could these situations if they flare up spread somewhat simultaneously and create so much mayhem that US forces are so thinly spread that NATO without US is helpless as is US itself. And UN is rendered useless too And then Russia will retake what it sees fit . Can't happen? Add in the likelihood of the transatlantic cable being taken out and massive cyber attacks at opportune moments.
I hope not! But we live in an ever more fragile world
Just my thoughts in answer to your question CCTV.

[Daffydd]

Anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. Anyone who wants it restored has no brains.

Vladimir Putin

[scientificred]

Anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. Anyone who wants it restored has no brains.

Vladimir Putin

Is that a quote Daffyd? If so from when? And was it a good translation ? I hope so ! My perception of Putin has changed from being a clever chess player to being unhinged. I fear he is vengeful against former USSR states and the former Warsaw pact countries despite the fact that they wanted Russia away and have voted against them. Yes there are russian speaking people in those countries who still like the idea of always having sausages and a roof over their head. Is that your expectancy in life ?

[CCTV]

Anyone who doesn't regret the passing of the Soviet Union has no heart. Anyone who wants it restored has no brains.

Vladimir Putin

While this might dissuade some about Putins intentions.
I'm looking for a coherent explanation of the how, from those who believe it.

[scientificred]

While this might dissuade some about Putins intentions.
I'm looking for a coherent explanation of the how, from those who believe it.

I have offered my reply dear CCTV. I fear it is possible Are you saying it is not coherent?