This country (the UK) has gone to shit. Discuss.

[Daffydd]

I thought democracy worked the other way - if we don't like how the country is run he can fuck off!

[Martyboy]

I thought democracy worked the other way - if we don't like how the country is run he can fuck off!

Starmer's a Fabian socailist,apparently 140+ current (Liebour not Labour,kinda sums em up) MP's are too,read this.......It aint gonna be good...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

[Nineteenx]

They’re all corrupt but Farage wants to privatise our NHS and get weighed in by US health and insurance and big pharmaceutical companies

[KingCanny]

What got me with Starmer was his stand up to Trump for our veterans. Pathetic when he's prosecuting veterans & let them die on our streets. Trying to act like some kind of hero to these people to get one over on trump. Starmergeddon. Shitbag of the highest order with a knighthood.

[teesred]

What got me with Starmer was his stand up to Trump for our veterans. Pathetic when he's prosecuting veterans & let them die on our streets. Trying to act like some kind of hero to these people to get one over on trump. Starmergeddon. Shitbag of the highest order with a knighthood.

Who would be any different?
The sooner people realize that political parties serve only themselves the better.
I understand why someone would consider voting reform, after all the other two have literally screwed working people over for decades. The issue is reforms whole schtick is very hollow beyond banging on about immigration and they'll find out if they win an election. Farage is from the elite and he serves the elite. He's never done a single thing in his political career that's benefitted anyone other than him.
He's an entertainer who uses politics as his platform. He spends more time abroad, he advises people on how to avoid paying tax. He loves to wax about migrants yet he loves the economic migrants who fuck this country over year after year by offshoring their tax. His arse will fall out if he wins an election, it's the easiest job in politics to be in opposition and shout from the sidelines.
Another big issue in this country is the constant barking back to the good old days,the empire etc. it's been over for more than 100 years and it's never coming back and people have short memories. Those days were fucking grim.

Britain owns nothing and has no money due to Thatchers neo liberalism and selling off every public service to her fucking pals in parliament. Everything wrong in this country now can be traced back to her.

[JockStrap]

Who would be any different?
The sooner people realize that political parties serve only themselves the better.
I understand why someone would consider voting reform, after all the other two have literally screwed working people over for decades. The issue is reforms whole schtick is very hollow beyond banging on about immigration and they'll find out if they win an election. Farage is from the elite and he serves the elite. He's never done a single thing in his political career that's benefitted anyone other than him.
He's an entertainer who uses politics as his platform. He spends more time abroad, he advises people on how to avoid paying tax. He loves to wax about migrants yet he loves the economic migrants who fuck this country over year after year by offshoring their tax. His arse will fall out if he wins an election, it's the easiest job in politics to be in opposition and shout from the sidelines.
Another big issue in this country is the constant barking back to the good old days,the empire etc. it's been over for more than 100 years and it's never coming back and people have short memories. Those days were fucking grim.

Britain owns nothing and has no money due to Thatchers neo liberalism and selling off every public service to her fucking pals in parliament. Everything wrong in this country now can be traced back to her.

I tend to avoid politics but that's a cracking post.

[redebreck]

Britain owns nothing and has no money due to Thatchers neo liberalism and selling off every public service to her fucking pals in parliament. Everything wrong in this country now can be traced back to her.

North Sea Oil, also, was sold off to the Conservative's pals.
If we had gone way of Norway, who invested the oil revenues, the UK would be rich beyond people's wildest dreams, instead of being a third world country.

[KingCanny]

This is the sort of subject I will go off on one but I like the fact I didn't start it. Middle aged blokes like myself will be working til 75yrs old & death will be the moment we stop working. Our pensions will go to fucking immigrants & it wont change with reform (new Conservative). We were gaslighted by a fake pandemic & we will be gaslighted by a fake war. We are a country ran by peado politicians & the world has gone to shit. It will get worse...AI means we wont know what is real. But hopefully....we beat man city at the wknd & we feel a few days of joy. I could go on but I can't be arsed

[KingCanny]

Just as an addition do you never feel like this madness is a distraction before they throw the next shit at us?Keep the peasants amused before we hit them with a shock

[KingCanny]

Who would be any different?
The sooner people realize that political parties serve only themselves the better.
I understand why someone would consider voting reform, after all the other two have literally screwed working people over for decades. The issue is reforms whole schtick is very hollow beyond banging on about immigration and they'll find out if they win an election. Farage is from the elite and he serves the elite. He's never done a single thing in his political career that's benefitted anyone other than him.
He's an entertainer who uses politics as his platform. He spends more time abroad, he advises people on how to avoid paying tax. He loves to wax about migrants yet he loves the economic migrants who fuck this country over year after year by offshoring their tax. His arse will fall out if he wins an election, it's the easiest job in politics to be in opposition and shout from the sidelines.
Another big issue in this country is the constant barking back to the good old days,the empire etc. it's been over for more than 100 years and it's never coming back and people have short memories. Those days were fucking grim.

Britain owns nothing and has no money due to Thatchers neo liberalism and selling off every public service to her fucking pals in parliament. Everything wrong in this country now can be traced back to her.

Just catching up here & well said mate. Let's hope anybody that agrees is not accused as being 'far right'. Thing is I now see far right as a compliment. It means I'm far away from the left wing Loons. I see people every weekend holding vigils for Palestine & climate change. Cults on every corner that worship Greta Thunberg. Pensioners worshipping an autistic child. The absolute state of people's brainwashed heads. They probably think the pandemic was fucking real & they saved the world with a paper mask

[KingCanny]

I will end this topic by saying...listen to Billie Eilish. She knows more than any of us will ever know. Why?Because she had a few pop songs that did well on Spotify so her opinion trumps us all. Far right bigots 😂

[redebreck]

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm becoming seriously pissed off with A I.

[Ravo19]

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm becoming seriously pissed off with A I.

Me to,cant trust anything anymore.

[Nineteenx]

Who would be any different?
The sooner people realize that political parties serve only themselves the better.
I understand why someone would consider voting reform, after all the other two have literally screwed working people over for decades. The issue is reforms whole schtick is very hollow beyond banging on about immigration and they'll find out if they win an election. Farage is from the elite and he serves the elite. He's never done a single thing in his political career that's benefitted anyone other than him.
He's an entertainer who uses politics as his platform. He spends more time abroad, he advises people on how to avoid paying tax. He loves to wax about migrants yet he loves the economic migrants who fuck this country over year after year by offshoring their tax. His arse will fall out if he wins an election, it's the easiest job in politics to be in opposition and shout from the sidelines.
Another big issue in this country is the constant barking back to the good old days,the empire etc. it's been over for more than 100 years and it's never coming back and people have short memories. Those days were fucking grim.

Britain owns nothing and has no money due to Thatchers neo liberalism and selling off every public service to her fucking pals in parliament. Everything wrong in this country now can be traced back to her.

Bravo I don’t do politics anymore you can’t have a debate but they are all the same out for themselves and their sponsors

I wish more ppl could follow the thread and at least understand who or what caused the issues

[Steveo]

Who would be any different?
The sooner people realize that political parties serve only themselves the better.
I understand why someone would consider voting reform, after all the other two have literally screwed working people over for decades. The issue is reforms whole schtick is very hollow beyond banging on about immigration and they'll find out if they win an election. Farage is from the elite and he serves the elite. He's never done a single thing in his political career that's benefitted anyone other than him.
He's an entertainer who uses politics as his platform. He spends more time abroad, he advises people on how to avoid paying tax. He loves to wax about migrants yet he loves the economic migrants who fuck this country over year after year by offshoring their tax. His arse will fall out if he wins an election, it's the easiest job in politics to be in opposition and shout from the sidelines.
Another big issue in this country is the constant barking back to the good old days,the empire etc. it's been over for more than 100 years and it's never coming back and people have short memories. Those days were fucking grim.

Britain owns nothing and has no money due to Thatchers neo liberalism and selling off every public service to her fucking pals in parliament. Everything wrong in this country now can be traced back to her.

Indeed and you touch on great points BUT Blair arguably eroded even more and caused more havoc. Any social reform on his watch was tolerateed to facilitate his megalomania. And he did so with no morality. The devil incarnate. Thatcher was truly disgusting BUT she at least believed in it .. Tony knew he was fucking people over and he pushed for it still. He simply wanted to be at the big table.. Untouchable after facilitating the illegal war on Iraq and the the deaths of over 2 million people.


Thatcher on Blair... When asked what her greatest legacy was, she reportedly replied, "Tony Blair and New Labour. We forced our opponents to change their minds."

Blair on Thatcher... In his memoirs, Blair wrote, "I always thought she was a big figure. You could disagree with her, but you couldn't ignore her... In some ways, I was the heir to the change she began."