Match Thread: Brighton v Liverpool

[CCTV]

Endo, Elliott & Jones each played more PL minutes than Grav last season.

Surely that alone has caught your attention

So - you are suggesting that Endo is better than Gravenberch? Either that OR you are trying to use Klopp’s selections in an injury ravaged season as evidence that Klopp believes he was/is.

None of which has ANY bearing on who is actually part of Klopp’s strongest 11.

Slot certainly found who he felt were those players - and he used them almost exclusively.

Also they happen to be the very same players most of us would put down as the strongest among Klopp’s squad.

We can keep going all day and all night CCTV - at some point you are going to have to face reality

I'm saying you are wrong. Instead of replying on topic, you just keep asking questions, cause you have no rebuttal.

Endo had 20 starts under Klopp last year in the PL & has 1 start under Slot.
8 more starts in PL under Klopp than Grav.
35 less under Slot than Grav

[Steveo]

He has been highlighting how shallow the squad is all season. No rotation - at all… This was a perfect way to ram it home. Smart move now the title is won.

The question is - why didn’t he do this when it mattered? We all know the answer.

This is the offending post. The one that got the shill in a pickle.

Instead of accepting the facts - that Slot has repeatedly done as mentioned above all season rather than use more of the squad who he feels are not a part of the strongest 11 left to him by Jurgen.

But a shill cannot accept the facts. A shill has to try and deflect and pretend that black is white.
And we all know why. Because to accept the facts is to accept that the squad was not as strong as the current manager would like.

An ‘F$G Fan Boi’ has nowhere else to go. He can either accept the facts (which don’t put uncle John in the best light) or suggest Endo is part of Klopp’s strongest 11 when we ALL know he isn’t close.

[justincredible]

Yawn....

[Steveo]

Rough night Justin ?

Maybe add something of worth mate? And I don’t mean jumping the gun on Transfers necessarily either.

[CCTV]

He went exclusively with Klopp's strongest 11 whenever they were able to walk.. But that doesn't mean Chiesa couldn't have been used more. He absolutely could - and should. Certainly the last 2 games.. It's like we aren't allowed to see him in a stronger lineup.

Endo, Elliott & Jones each played more PL minutes than Grav last season.

Surely that alone has caught your attention

Fascinating.

Under Slot this year
Endo has played 239 minutes in the PL.
Grav has played 3,101 minutes in the PL

Under Klopp last year,
Endo played 1,720 minutes in the PL.
Grav played 1,121 minutes in the PL.

● Endo was 10th for minutes last year, this year 21st.
● Endo playing 1,481 minutes less this year than last year in the PL.

● Endo played 599 more PL minutes than Grav last year.
● Endo has played 2,862 less PL minutes than Grav this year.

● Grav was 18th last year for minutes played under Jurgen, 3rd this year under Slot.
● Grav playing an extra 1,980 minutes to date.

It can't be clearer that under Slot Grav is in his best 11 this season.
36 starts and missing 139 minutes of the PL season.
Whereas under Klopp Grav was not in his best 11.
12 starts and missing 2,299 minutes of the PL season.

Endo had 20 starts under Klopp last year in the PL & has 1 start under Slot.
8 more starts in PL under Klopp than Grav.
35 less under Slot than Grav

Think you'll find that post of yours was the one I quoted.

Then that's my first reply to it.

Then there's the facts from me.

[CCTV]

It's funny watching you trying to turn, a discussion on who Klopp selected most last year and who Slot has selected most this year, into something related to FSG

And I see you're back to rubbishing the squad
Bad year fam LFC wining number 20

[Steveo]

Naah - what's utterly hilarious is - your consistent lies.

So.. where exactly did any "discussion on who Klopp selected most last year " come from? Oh yes - that would be you - exclusively you.. the resident 'F$G Fan Boi' When you change the subject - are we only allowed to stick with what Lord CCTV decrees as the new sacred topic... YOU buffoon

I stated clearly Klopp's Strongest 11. I am highlighting the fact that the entire squad - bar Chiesa - was left behind by Jurgen Klopp. A year before his contract ran out. Want to argue with those facts too?

"Klopp's Strongest 11" is going to be virtually the exact same group everyone on here - and LFC fans in general - would pick as the most talented and technically gifted players within the squad. Klopp's team selections last year have almost zero bearing on that. Klopp brought in 4 new mids - Klopp suffered a mid season injury pile up and Klopp clearly thought much more of Endo at DM than Slot does. Something both the Dutchman and myself share. Klopp could have played Endo on 38 games last season and he would still not be close to who I and many regard as part of our strongest lineup.

There is nothing difficult in this either BUT there is a shill trying to rail against it because - the wording I used gets under the skin.. The skin of a shill.

[CCTV]

He went exclusively with Klopp's strongest 11 whenever they were able to walk.. But that doesn't mean Chiesa couldn't have been used more. He absolutely could - and should. Certainly the last 2 games.. It's like we aren't allowed to see him in a stronger lineup.

Your post from page 1. You mention Klopps strongest 11 not me

Endo, Elliott & Jones each played more PL minutes than Grav last season.

Surely that alone has caught your attention

My 1st reply to that post

And here's your reply to minutes played & starts under Klopp & Slot. Drivel.

Naah - what's utterly hilarious is - your consistent lies.

So.. where exactly did any "discussion on who Klopp selected most last year " come from? Oh yes - that would be you - Lord CCTV decrees as the new sacred topic... YOU buffoon

I stated clearly Klopp's Strongest 11. I am highlighting the fact that the entire squad - bar Chiesa - was left behind by Jurgen Klopp. A year before his contract ran out. Want to argue with those facts too?

"Klopp's Strongest 11" is going to be virtually the exact same group everyone on here - and LFC fans in general - would pick as the most talented and technically gifted players within the squad. Klopp's team selections last year have almost zero bearing on that. Klopp brought in 4 new mids - Klopp suffered a mid season injury pile up and Klopp clearly thought much more of Endo at DM than Slot does. Something both the Dutchman and myself share. Klopp could have played Endo on 38 games last season and he would still not be close to who I and many regard as part of our strongest lineup.

There is nothing difficult in this either BUT there is a shill trying to rail against it because - the wording I used gets under the skin.. The skin of a shill.

You said... He went exclusively with Klopp's strongest 11 whenever they were able to walk..

The data shows that Grav wasn't in Klopps strongest 11 last year, and absolutely is in Slots strongest 11 this year.

Maybe read BobPaisleyFans OP and thread again

[Steveo]

And he did - almost exclusively… all season long.

As anyone who was actually watching knows.