Bye Trent

[Steveo]

It'd be a close run thing. I think Cole was better defensively (only just), but Robbo had a better engine and better final ball delivery.

With Trent you take the rough with the smooth. Up until last season he was world class. His numbers speak for themself and was/is doing things that very few fullbacks in world football can/could do.

Again, Carvajal is by far a better defender but he wouldn't have provided the same attacking output as Trent.

Robbo was superb... but Cole was just a better footballer mate.. Better technique better close control much better touch.. had a strike on him too. Scary to think what his numbers would have been in Klopp's team.. Doesn't take a pro to see it either imo.

[Steveo]

You in Cobham again

Bookham - how very dare you.. .. Ashley's just down the road actually.. Leatherhead I think - even closer.

[jozza800]

Robbo was superb... but Cole was just a better footballer mate.. Better technique better close control much better touch.. had a strike on him too. Scary to think what his numbers would have been in Klopp's team.. Doesn't take a pro to see it either imo.

He wasn't exactly in poor teams at Arsenal or Chelsea.

Obviously pointless, but i'd be willing to bet that Cole wouldn't have the same sort of numbers as Robbo, or Trent for that matter.

And it's not entirely down to the system (although it will definitely have an impact) as Robbo has 18 goals and assists for a gash Scotland team in 80 odd appearances, whilst Cole (somehow unbelievably) had zero assists or goals in 107 games for England.

As I say, it's a pretty close run thing both were excellent fullbacks.

[CCTV]

He wasn't exactly in poor teams at Arsenal or Chelsea.

Obviously pointless, but i'd be willing to bet that Cole wouldn't have the same sort of numbers as Robbo, or Trent for that matter.

And it's not entirely down to the system (although it will definitely have an impact) as Robbo has 18 goals and assists for a gash Scotland team in 80 odd appearances, whilst Cole (somehow unbelievably) had zero assists or goals in 107 games for England.

As I say, it's a pretty close run thing both were excellent fullbacks.

Robboa smashes Cole on goals & assists in PL football.

[Steveo]

Robboa smashes Cole on goals & assists in PL football.

His does - no argument. But Cole is clearly the better player.

[Steveo]

He wasn't exactly in poor teams at Arsenal or Chelsea.

Obviously pointless, but i'd be willing to bet that Cole wouldn't have the same sort of numbers as Robbo, or Trent for that matter.

And it's not entirely down to the system (although it will definitely have an impact) as Robbo has 18 goals and assists for a gash Scotland team in 80 odd appearances, whilst Cole (somehow unbelievably) had zero assists or goals in 107 games for England.

As I say, it's a pretty close run thing both were excellent fullbacks.

I don't agree and your methods for comparison are way off.

Cole playing for England - a side with infinitely better creative players and long before Klopp ball. Played as a traditional Left back. Ditto at Chelsea and Arsenal. No coincidence FB's today are playing a completely different game and posting completely different numbers.. Are they all better attackers? One might even say Robbo would have struggled in Cole's place.

There has been significant evolution in football tactics and the strategic role Full backs now play within teams. The shift from traditional defensive full-backs to attacking, playmaking threats is a direct result of evolving team formations and philosophies, particularly the widespread adoption of systems that prioritise width and fluid attacking play.

[Kev0909]

We look so much better and solid without him lads!!!!!!!

you lot called it right !

[Kev0909]

Bradly has started about 22-23 games in his career for us so far and a lot of sub appeareances coming back from injury's, and he's better than trent and good riddance to trent?

Baffling

Can I remind people of all the pin-point crosses that have led to goals ?
THe pin-point passes- that's either set up players, not if it's fuckin nunez..... or helped set up a goal ?

One of the most, if not the most creative RB's in the world...... more creative than any of our mdifield...... that's meant to be Szob's job, doesn't do it enough for me, but that's why we have trent/salah combo to destroy teams....

be sad he's gone, but don't make out he's shit, he's grown up with us.... thank him move on, and remember all the good he's done, first title team in 30 years etc etc..... he's done more than gerrard in that regards.

Big reason why we won stuff under Klopp, madness henderson gets more credit.

if we go into the season with Bradley Gomez And Quansah as our RB choices- well..... good heavens injuries galore

19/20 season when we won the league he played EVERY single game, that's right thirty-eight with his best goals/assists hault 4/13..... but i guess he was shit that's why we won the league, and kept up close behind city around that time

Morons trying to put him down !!

Cough Cough

Also mentioned how it would effect salah

Going well init ?

People saying bradley better than trent

JOG ON LOL

[Steveo]

Yes - it's clear.. and we never expected to miss his defending. BUT his creativity was always the worry and so it's proved. Now Frimpong may well develop a better understanding with Mo.. IF Mo is still starting games... it's early days still..


But I think it's far bigger than just Trent. Look how many players have gone straight into that team. You can't do that and expect synergy. This is fundamentally a different team now. They will need to find out how to function at the elite level as a group in one of - if not the most the most competitive leagues in Europe.. This is where management comes in.. Do we have the staff to do that? I guess we will find out shortly

[Red October]

The non-negotiable should be the pressing. We won't achieve anything without that sense of urgency. At our best under Klopp we would swarm the opposition to get possession back. That's where Wini and Hendo came in. They weren't the most creative but once we got the ball back they then give it to the creative ones. In this team we have Grav who is good at breaking up play. Szobo to a lesser extent. Macca is in bad form right now. We really need a Mascherano player to do that job. Also, others are not pressing like they should be. Wirtz is not, Salah is not, Isak is not. Players like Grav and Szobo are doing a lot of the heavy lifting in the team right now.