Football news part Trois

[Steveo]

See - now who’s dissing on famous Germanzzz

I am not a marxist tho justme - not even close - but he was right about Capitalism and the evidence is all around us

[justme]

its always been around us since the dawn of mankind.. some people have more than others.

[Crimson Dynasty]

I originally posted it can be done in other languages, and that is true.

Here's an Englishman speaking in English about the Irish race.



So that's a prominent Englishman speaking in English about the Irish race.

Yes, and he's wrong and incorrectly using the term (in its strictest definition).

Probably colloquially.

It happened a lot in the early and middle part of the last century whenever particular people would try to "other"-ize a particular group of people.
That didn't make it right.
Whether it was the Nazis in Germany with Jews or even the Romani (and sometimes even Polish), or as in this case with Churchill and the Irish, or as was done to the same Irish and Italians when they arrived in America as immigrants.
Any time "race" was used to refer to them by other white people, that was the intended purpose.

Did you think that appealing to authority (in this case, Churchill) was going to excuse your misunderstanding of how the English language (and words in it) work?

The term "race" has a very specific anthropological definition.

And yes, I also pointed out that you refenced that it's done that way in other languages, (and also why you did so.)

We're not speaking those other languages now, are we?

[Steveo]

its always been around us since the dawn of mankind.. some people have more than others.

Has it really? And there’s the rest of us stupidly believing it begins with the decline of feudalism in Europe…

We’ve had it all wrong

[sydenham red]

What about tribes and sects, where do they fit into all of this lol?

[justme]

Ask the expert Steveo..

[Steveo]

Not football news but some fucking monsters have killed Charlie Kirk... This is the world we are living in..


Sad times. He was a conservative and while I didn't agree with all of his views he was a good soul.. who spoke very well. Had a 1 year old child...Murdered for being accessible.


Sick.. Truly sick

[CCTV]

Yes, and he's wrong and incorrectly using the term (in its strictest definition).

Probably colloquially.

It happened a lot in the early and middle part of the last century whenever particular people would try to "other"-ize a particular group of people.
That didn't make it right.
Whether it was the Nazis in Germany with Jews or even the Romani (and sometimes even Polish), or as in this case with Churchill and the Irish, or as was done to the same Irish and Italians when they arrived in America as immigrants.
Any time "race" was used to refer to them by other white people, that was the intended purpose.

Did you think that appealing to authority (in this case, Churchill) was going to excuse your misunderstanding of how the English language (and words in it) work?

The term "race" has a very specific anthropological definition.

And yes, I also pointed out that you refenced that it's done that way in other languages, (and also why you did so.)

We're not speaking those other languages now, are we?

Look, I made a very short post to Steveo.

So far you have told me that is incorrect, without asking or knowing the languages I was referring to, you seem to have a habit of telling me I'm wrong with certainty and here you know without knowing the languages in question.
That's an interesting position.

I've then given you Winston Churchill using the term race with respect to Irish people, whislt speaking English.

Now i get more drivel from your sorry self

He wanted a new relationship between Great Britain and Ireland to foster a "federation of English speaking peoples all over the world

Birds of a feather
Its only the English language that matters. My anthropological superiority in the sciences.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/german-chancellor-helmut-kohl-made-bid-to-influence-irelands-neutrality/29869826.html

Irish language services are no longer available in Ireland. English and Ukranian only now.

The term german race, can only really refer to 2 things.
1) A race in Germany, like a road race or an arms race
2) Or the German race/people. Like Helmut Kohl is of German race.

I mean, we've not gotten to other languages at all, and it seems your reply is that Churhill used it wrong as did others in the recent past, and justme used it wrong just now.

[CCTV]

In English that is..

[Crimson Dynasty]

Look, I made a very short post to Steveo.

So far you have told me that is incorrect, without asking or knowing the languages I was referring to, you seem to have a habit of telling me I'm wrong with certainty and here you know without knowing the languages in question.
That's an interesting position.

I never asked, nor cared about the languages you're referring to because we are right now communicating in ENGLISH, which is where your usage of that word and term was wrong as I was referring to.

I don't know whether your usage in those languages (which I neither know nor care about since we're not communicating in them) is right or wrong, so why would it matter?

I've then given you Winston Churchill using the term race with respect to Irish people, whislt speaking English.

Yes, and I told you that he was wrong when he did that.
(in the usage of the language that way. Not necessarily the substance which I wasn't addressing)

Which part of that confused you?

That famous people can also misuse the language?

Or that English people can also misuse their language?

He wanted a new relationship between Great Britain and Ireland to foster a "federation of English speaking peoples all over the world

Birds of a feather
Its only the English language that matters. My anthropological superiority in the sciences.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/german-chancellor-helmut-kohl-made-bid-to-influence-irelands-neutrality/29869826.html

Irish language services are no longer available in Ireland. English and Ukranian only now.

The term german race, can only really refer to 2 things.
1) A race in Germany, like a road race or an arms race
2) Or the German race/people. Like Helmut Kohl is of German race.

I haven't a clue what in the hell you were even trying to say with all that drivel.

I mean, we've not gotten to other languages at all, and it seems your reply is that Churhill used it wrong as did others in the recent past, and justme used it wrong just now.

Yes.