Oh, I see. When other more meaningful stats stack up in Diaz's favour, suddenly that metric is now "Steveo's formula," and it ranks Díaz above Salah, Rush, and Suárez.? How so when Diaz never played in the 97 and 99 point Liverpool side or in the Same Era as Rush and Suarez????
This is exactly why you're a stat-obsessed fool who lacks context. You accidentally stumbled onto the one truth that exposes your entire argument: Simple G+A is useless without advanced context.
Let’s unpack your absolute meltdown:
1. The Win Ratio Fallacy
You claim the Win Ratio is flawed because it makes Díaz "better than Salah and Suárez." Congratulations! You've successfully pointed out the fundamental limitation of using ONE metric in isolation.
Win Ratio is a TEAM metric. Díaz has a higher win rate because his style of play (elite pressing, high ball progression, 1v1 threat) is exactly what transforms a good Liverpool side into a winning Liverpool side. He is the system upgrade that leads to more points.
Salah (much of what makes up his ratio), Rush, Suárez played in different eras, under different managers, and with completely different defensive responsibilities. Comparing them using this single metric is as pointless as comparing their shorts length.
2. The G+A Per Minute baloney
You call G+A per minute the "best metric." In the analytic world, this is known as the Beginner's Metric because it actively ignores everything that happens outside the opposition box.
Díaz vs. Gakpo is a qualitative difference:
Gakpo has a better G+A per minute because he overperforms his Expected Goals (xG)—meaning he finishes his chances clinically.
Díaz's value lies in creating xG through unique, high-risk actions. He is elite at progressive carries and (like you do over John Henry) successful dribbles (the things G+A ignores). He’s creating the chance out of nothing; Gakpo is waiting for the perfect moment.
The Final Reality Check: Market Value, Ratings, and the Eye Test
You threw out player ratings and market value to prove your point, but they directly contradict your G+A claim:
Market Value: The market values players based on their versatility, profile, pace, and future potential - all areas where Díaz is considered superior to Gakpo. Money follows impact, not just clean-up goals.
Ratings: Player ratings are designed to incorporate the very factors you keep ignoring: Dribbles, Defensive Pressure, Ball Progression, and successful take-ons. These metrics consistently show that Díaz has a higher overall contribution rating than Gakpo in open play.
Your argument boils down to: "My single favorite stat says Gakpo is better, but every single other metric—including the one I introduced—says Díaz is better. I choose to ignore reality."
The eye test, the Win Rate, the progressive metrics, and the simple reality of his performance under extreme duress all scream the same thing: Díaz is well ahead - Gakpo is very good, I think we need better. Keep worshipping your G+A spreadsheet. I'll stick with the player who actually drives the WINNING culture.
Forever.
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