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    Wirtz has put on a lot of muscle that will take him time to get used to. Dont forget szobozzlai had a pretty indifferent second half to his first season as well so would be prepared to give him a proper run at a second sesson

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrenpotter View Post
    Wirtz has put on a lot of muscle that will take him time to get used to. Dont forget szobozzlai had a pretty indifferent second half to his first season as well so would be prepared to give him a proper run at a second sesson
    Yes. I think we can judge him better after next season. To me he's shown glimpses of real quality. He can be very frustrating though as he does something clever and positive one minute then passes it straight to the opposition the next. There are mitigating factors too I think. The team as a whole hasn't been functioning and that's been true whether Wirtz is in the team or not. If it was a case of Wirtz being dropped and suddenly the team plays well, then I'd be more inclined to see him as the problem. But that hasn't been the case. We can count on one hand how many players have had an okay season for us: Alisson, VVD, Szobo, Ekitike. The rest have been patchy at best. I like Frimpong but he's had a lot of setbacks. Also Grav is quality but at times has been hit and miss this season. So all of that is a huge caveat for me. If we get a differnet coach next season I wouldn't be surprised to see Wirtz flourish.
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    This season is on slot and wirtz also a issue.
    Wirtz good lad and player but we are not suited to playing a number 10,the midfield 2 have struggled all season and gapko and fading salah have also had a poor season under this formation.
    Sorry the 4 2 3 1 isnt going to work and should cash in on wirtz.

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    Goals or assists per minute all comps 2025/26

    Foden
    Goals 10
    Assists 5
    Goal-or-assist per 181.3 minutes

    Eze
    Goals 9
    Assists 6
    Goal-or-assist per 182.1 minutes

    Wirtz
    Goals 6
    Assists 10
    Goal-or-assist per 194.3 minutes

    Sobozla
    Goals 12
    Assists 8
    Goal-or-assist per 205.3 minutes
    1 penalty

    Rogers
    Goals 10
    Assists 7
    Goal-or-assist per 217.2 minutes

    Palmer
    Goals 10
    Assists 3
    Goal-or-assist per 138.1 minutes
    5 penalties
    Minus penalties Goal-or-assist per 224.4 minutes
    Cherki has had a smashing season for Goals & Assists per minute.

    Cherki aside Wirtz compares favourably with other similar players, in his 1st season at LFC where key players have gone to shit in a shit season.

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    Anyone remember this kind of guff being shown to prove Gakpo was better than Diaz..?





    Maybe our very own - H'edwards - are also making decisions from their bedrooms?

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    The thing that is going to go against Wirtz unless he puts in stellar numbers and performances is his price tag.

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    Price tag was high - BUT will be forgotten if he comes good, Needs to show more than this season. Hopefully he does next season or he will face the music

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    It will but I just cannot see it. If we were going to spend Ł100m on a player I would want much much more than occasional good passes. He drifts through too many games barely getting a kick and giving the ball away at will when he does.

    No way I would turn down a proper offer from Bayern in the summer, on the off chance he may suddenly come good.

    No chance

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    So long as he's playing well for Germany Wirtz's value won't drop by much if at all. With that being case it might be worth at least giving him a bit more time under a new manager to see what he's capable of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Anyone remember this kind of guff being shown to prove Gakpo was better than Diaz..?





    Maybe our very own - H'edwards - are also making decisions from their bedrooms?
    By Goals & Assists per minute....

    I showed Suarez, Rush & Salah are all better attackers than Gakpo & Diaz.
    By this metric Gakpo was ahead of Diaz.

    You proposed that win ratio was more important than Goals and assists per minute....
    This leads to Diaz being a better attacker than Gakpo, and Rush, Suarez & Salah.

    Think those inferences show my metric is the better metric in judging an attackers quality.

    Your argument and metric suggests Diaz is a better attacker than Gakpo, Suarez, Salah & Rush.

    My method shows Suarez, Salah & Rush are better attackers than both Gakpo & Diaz.

    Yet you laugh at my proposal

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