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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Hahahaha - in hindsight after that window, I wonder how many Reds wish we had done one of our more "normal" windows of buying potential or on-the-cusp players rather than the attempt to massively elevate our attack?

    It's a pity we sacrificed the depth that we did. Also the Diaz thing - I still think accepting a big fee for a player like Diaz was fine - it was the subsequent lack of replacing him with a 22-25 year old with a high ceiling and electric pace (and/or intense work-rate) that was the issue.

    Recruitment will be fascinating this Summer. Not sure if this will be a Summer where I mentally check out from it and see who we bought when the season starts, or if it'll be one where I find myself googling Liverpool transfer links every hour
    Good points Sid.
    In hindsight that transfer window was very "un-Liverpool" if that makes sense?
    It was exciting but some of us did share the concerns of too much flux. It just wasn't the way we usually do things and maybe that proof is in the dessert.......I mean pudding.

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    A few good points from you lads but a few of them where added to team better than the one we have now.all targets mentioned are a gamble being added to a team thats been a bit of a mess and slot looks like being in charge none of players mention are going to lift players and fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravo19 View Post
    A few good points from you lads but a few of them where added to team better than the one we have now.all targets mentioned are a gamble being added to a team thats been a bit of a mess and slot looks like being in charge none of players mention are going to lift players and fans
    I'm not too concerned about the player profile in the sense of "stars" to inject us with optimism.

    Right now I want depth, pace and work-rate. Depth helps us get games over the line, which means wins - wins lift fans. Even just a Ji-Sung Park profile kind of player who is willing to give everything can have a knock-on effect to other lads around them. I'd be all over us becoming a bunch of Wasps at a picnic again, which I don't think we'll see sadly.

    More concerned about Slot v someone else. It would appear that he is staying and we are "all in" on assembling a side that will suit his methodology at Feyenoord and that could mean a lot of fixing if it doesn't work.

    It's easy to envisage a repeat of Brendan's last season where Slot needs shifted quite fast and we are wanting a new Manager. Seems daft given the list that will be available in the Summer to subsequently not be available in Autumn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    Good points Sid.
    In hindsight that transfer window was very "un-Liverpool" if that makes sense?
    It was exciting but some of us did share the concerns of too much flux. It just wasn't the way we usually do things and maybe that proof is in the dessert.......I mean pudding.
    We lost so much chemistry and memorisation of patterns of play, which came at a time when we lost a lot of our press (Jota, Diaz, Darwin) and our get out of jail free card in Trent transitioning the ball from deep-right to high-left....PLUS Mo's drop-off, plus none of the new signings hitting the ground running even if they all have excellent individual qualifities.

    Continuing the "reset" next season on a background of the insipid displays this season is risky. We're now hoping for new arrivals coming in and instantly clicking with what's here to get things rolling.....gulp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    Good points Sid.
    In hindsight that transfer window was very "un-Liverpool" if that makes sense?
    It was exciting but some of us did share the concerns of too much flux. It just wasn't the way we usually do things and maybe that proof is in the dessert.......I mean pudding.
    Panic.. of the post Klopp variety. I did suggest this just a few weeks into the season

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    For a lighter look at what some will see as the inevitable lowering of expectations... It does have the look of "train risotto' about it all from here on in.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Hahahaha - in hindsight after that window, I wonder how many Reds wish we had done one of our more "normal" windows of buying potential or on-the-cusp players rather than the attempt to massively elevate our attack?

    It's a pity we sacrificed the depth that we did. Also the Diaz thing - I still think accepting a big fee for a player like Diaz was fine - it was the subsequent lack of replacing him with a 22-25 year old with a high ceiling and electric pace (and/or intense work-rate) that was the issue.

    Recruitment will be fascinating this Summer. Not sure if this will be a Summer where I mentally check out from it and see who we bought when the season starts, or if it'll be one where I find myself googling Liverpool transfer links every hour
    Hindsight is 20/20 as always but I really wish we had. The big problem as you highlight is that we leveraged a lot of squad players to pay for a limited number of first teamers. On paper that doesn't sound too unsensible but in practice it's led to us having very little on the bench to give players a rest when needed.

    Diaz
    Nunez
    Quansah
    Kelleher
    Trent
    Elliott
    Tsimikas

    Some were understandable. Diaz was a highly-rated player who could command a good fee which he might not in a year or two. Nunez had never quite done it. Trent - was a frustrating player with undoubted talent but a lot of shortcomings defensively.

    However, with hindsight I think keeping Diaz and Kelleher at the very least would have helped us a lot this season. Mamardashvili hasn't looked great when he's come in and without looking at the stats I think we've dropped a lot of points when Alisson is missing. Diaz was a great outball and a great presser. Would have been a different season if we'd had him I think. Trent has been a big miss too but not a lot we could do about that.
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    Just to add: had a look at Mamardashvili's league games this season.

    We lost to Palace in the game before but him coming in did coincide with out awful run in the Autumn.

    Lost to Chelsea, Man u, Brentford and City with him. Then Alisson came back and we lost to Forest.

    After he came back in for the second stint, we lost 1 out of 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red October View Post
    Diaz
    Nunez
    Quansah
    Kelleher
    Trent
    Elliott
    Tsimikas
    Diaz - ?
    Jota - Ekitike
    Nunez - Isak
    Quansah - Leoni
    Kelleher - Marmar
    Trent - Frimpong
    Elliott - Wirtz
    Tsimikas - Kirkez

    Diaz is the big one we miss. Ngumoha should have been given more opportunities than he has, but Diaz aside I think it's an upgrade overall. Isak and Leoni being injured for 90% of the season hasn't helped. And Frimpong missing chunks of the season.

    The manager just hasn't got enough out of them this season.
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    There's half a thought that Ekitike might have been brought in to replace Diaz longer term. It was something that was discussed on here preseason that he could fill in on the left.

    Obviously Diogo's death changed all that, and as usualy FSG have tried wing it without replacing him.
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