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    Integrity.

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    You’re the admin maybe move it to off topic

    I have a lot of trauma from 2 aborted babies I’d have had were it my choice

    But this thread shouldn’t really be in the football forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    You’re the admin maybe move it to off topic

    I have a lot of trauma from 2 aborted babies I’d have had were it my choice

    But this thread shouldn’t really be in the football forum
    Sorry for your loss 19.

    But it is part of the football forum as its a call on the PL and LFC to address declining childhoods and the want wantful destruction of life etc

    If you read back the thread, I've explained why.

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    So these were the 2 links above, and since then the Epstein "hoax" spiel has followed.

    "Labour MP Tonia Antoniazzi put forward the amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill, which was passed by a majority of 242 votes.
    As an issue of conscience, MPs were allowed to vote according to their personal beliefs."

    Antoniazzi highlighted a series of cases where women had been arrested for illegal abortion offences, such as*Nicola Packer, who was taken from hospital to a police cell after delivering a stillborn baby at home after taking prescribed abortion medicine when she was around 26 weeks pregnant.
    She told jurors during her trial, which came after more than four years of police investigation, that she did not realise she had been pregnant for more than 10 weeks.
    Antoniazzi urged MPs to support her amendment to recognise "these women need care and support, and not criminalisation"
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2le12114j9o

    And these same moral characters have decided that whilst the home office was actively covering up grooming gangs from 2001 onwards, they have decided to host a far right national enquiry.
    At least 25 years after they 1st became aware of it, and a little over a decade after the public became aware of it. These are your one and same elected officials voting with their conscience..
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7872pngj2qo

    So let's recap the state of Britain and the world more widely. This is to summarise stats in the thread.

    Abortion stats

    ●73 million kids are aborted each year. More than all other causes of death combined.
    ●Over 200k per year in the UK now after a century of self and socio-engineering.
    ● Approaching 300k per year.
    ● For every diverse person in the UK today, one child was denied the right to life.
    ● Do working class people want to end their fetuses at 3 times the rates of the richer folk.
    ● In terms of the UK. More are aborted than ever. Since 1960 to today...Started out at 15k per year, then 100k, 150k & over 200k per year, hitting a quarter million a year, and on for 300k soon.
    ● A third of rape victims don't feel their fetus should pay the price for their rapists crime. Society only offers them death for the child in the UK. No death penalty for rapists or nonces.
    ● More working-class, black, female and disableds aborted globally than their counterparts.
    ● Ze eradication of DS by a progressive socialism.

    Child welfare.

    ● Physical, Emotional, Mental life is worse than before. They see less of their parent/parents mainly. They experience oversexualisation like never before whilst being failed by the courts.
    ● The conservative/lower estimate is over 100,000+ state sanctioned gangraped girls in the UK
    ● 77% rise in the number of children needing specialist treatment for severe mental health crisis, analysis for the BBC shows....
    ● Some 409,347 under-18s were referred to the NHS in England for specialist care for issues such as suicidal thoughts and self harm between April and October 2021, the highest number on record.
    ● Head teachers also report a huge rise in less severe mental health issues.
    ● The government plans 400 mental health teams to support schools by 2023.
    ● Only those with the most serious mental health problems are referred for specialist care. But schools are reporting a surge in mental health problems below this high threshold, with pupils needing extra support such as counselling.
    ● Young people’s mental health “has entered a dangerous phase” and “now might be our last chance to act”, scientists have written in the journal The Lancet. They argue that accumulating evidence indicates a steady decline in the mental health of people aged 12 to 25 over the past two decades, with covid-19 causing a recent plummet.
    Helen Porter, teacher from Berkshire and member of Association of Teachers and Lecturers Having heard of a 13-year-old girl taking part in an amateur porn video, I felt sickened and moved to ask for more research on this issue and more guidance and training for teachers, so that we can help to educate youngsters about the consequences of viewing so much porn.*(How much porn did she watch before being cast in a statutory rape film aged 13? That teacher not fit to be around 13 year olds)
    ● Recent years have seen a well-documented national rise in deaths from suicide, drug abuse and problem drinking, which some experts have labeled "deaths of despair."
    ● Liverpool Football Club's official charity, LFC Foundation, is partnering with national children's charity Action for Children to launch a new youth mental health programme in local schools. The On-Target programme will support and improve the mental health and wellbeing of young people in secondary schools across the Liverpool City Region.
    ● A government worker has been spared jail after being caught with indecent images of children.Touati, 41, of Clifton Road, Newcastle, admitted three counts of making indecent images of children and was sentenced to 12 months suspended for two years with 200 hours unpaid work. He must also sign the sex offenders register and be subject to a sexual harm prevention order for ten years. There were 63 of the most serious, category A images and one category A video, 83 categeory B images and one video and 93 category C images and one video. Newcastle Crown Court heard the children ranged in age from six months to 15 years.*There were a further 62,034 images and 561 videos which were not categorised due to "proportionality" in the use of police time.
    ● 62,034 images and 561 videos = 200 hours unpaid work.
    1 hour unpaid work per 310 images & 2.8 videos of category A to C pedo-files of children aged 6 months to 15 years old.
    ● Agony for mother of teen killed in machete attack after learning one of his killers will be released after just SIX MONTHS due to prison overcrowding under new Labour scheme.
    For me the 2 are clearly correlated. Abortion & Public health.
    Young women in the UK now aborting about a quarter million more babies a year than 60 odd years ago, and health scores have collapsed.

    So 1 poster replied on topic in favour of the food/diet chat and the area of living as such will be discussed further in the 25/26 campaign. Another expresses frustration with people accepting what I would call the industrialised self.

    There were 2 non-arguments 1) a potential inherit biases on my part was claimed - Millers Catholic Mick query & 2) Crimsons, my KKK pleasure in citing black abortion stats specifically in the USA. It's an odd coupling. The Catholic Mick in the KKK.

    Justme gave some weak arguments on abortion, typical ones, rolled off without much thought.

    So let's take Jutmes arguments...

    1Justme, a foetus not a child.
    See the NHS ambulance driver sentenced to 10 years for iirc injecting an abortive treatment into the woman he impregnated whilst on a marital split/troubles.
    The ending of the foetus by the would be father dubbed cruel and wicked. Had she aborted his child, then fair game is the abortion argument. His reproductive right is to not participate in the child's life.
    So murdering a foetus can carry a 10 year sentence in the UK, but if the woman aborts, the foetus has no human rights.
    Here I think it is fair to say, as many modern abortion supporters say, mother should have the right to murder their children, in the womb or shortly thereafter without punishment. Even if after the 24 week permitted time frame.

    Its worth noting that statistical analysis of suicides in the UK (Salib, Cortina-Borja) found a link between birth month and suicide rates. Essentially your emotional circuitry is developing at such a rate midtrimester that the impacts of the seasons leaves kids born in may/June at a higher risk of suicide than those born in October/November. Early summer born babies go through this developmental stage during winter and as a cohort have less developed emotional circuitry thats detectable later in life via suicide rates. The just a clump of cells argument is very weak.

    2) The idea of body autonomy, it's her body and she owns the baby because it is in her. So she can end its life if she wants. She'd be sectioned for trying to kill herself. She could be sentenced for social media posts. But if she wants to harm her baby, eugenics says go for it. Its an odd way to help someone by killing their kid. And in modern Britain whilst she can end her child's life after a rape say, she could serve more time in prison than her rapist if she says something offensive about her rapist.

    3) helping women..

    reducing unmarried mothers (back in the day, probably before justmes time)

    The sheer rise in abortions per year is staggering. Unless you think of lasses having abortions as a good thing for them, and each woman/girl is benefited from her abortion/s. Then the rise should be a measure of some concern. The number of single mom/parent, higher. Lots of absent fathers aka male aborters. The stats have been given for the sorry state of youths today.

    In my limited experience of talking to people, I'd suggest absent/bad men/wouldBdads no1 cause for abortion on demand. Expected to abort. No2 economics. No3 personal choice. When you analyse the data above its hard to take the wishful thinking seriously. Majority of people i spoke with would not have met the legal/standard of consent when opting to abort their babies.

    In reality abortion was brought in by eugencists to cull the working class, and today it has had a rather dysgenic impact on Society as opposed to a eugenic one. That tends to be the way of nasty eugencists.

    What was strange about this thread was the focus of displeased posters on abortion & god, whilst ignoring the plethora of stats on born children. My arguments based broadly on analysing trends.

    Again, if you'd rather your child have 30 abortions that 2, or not bothered, there's a lot of scientific evidence as to why that is not good for your daughter's.

    Anyway the 2025/26 campaign will move on to pastures new.

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    Just come on to say why would you bump this?

    Not to mention it could effect people that have been through stuff yeah "bedwetters" whatever you want to say you gimp

    What a fucking nutter you are though, no need for it on here, but apart from that carry on, and for the record- I'd rather abortion's happen instead of people having to live with horrible horrible life-limited coniditons which makes life not even worth living, not to mention how many unwanted kids there would be, the care system would be over-run, and cause a lot of trouble in the long-run, and probably kids getting abused left right and centre, or smackhead parents/parents that can't handle kids so neglect..... you already see it in the news sometimes.

    But do fuck off, what a cunt bumping the thread which obviously has 0 interest and could trigger people in a bad way, noone gives a shit, they didn't first time round, but carry on stats TV

    - Signing off.
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    The lives of children are more important than your feelings. And you're not exactly the most sensitive fella yourself, remeber when you & miller were good and you were posting about pitying my family and I should top myself.
    Maybe that could have been "triggering", it wasnt i replied to you about your anger, the statistical & developmental overlap between arson and rape, and maybe you should consider that, maybe posted less eloquently at the time.

    And although you raise good points about the horrors children face in modern briton, I'd suggest that is largely the pro-abort, friends of epstein society that has been produced.

    I've worked with people with DS and I've met parents whose non-DS kids are more of a problem for them than those with DS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Oh here we go anti abortion nonsense..
    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    Not the place for such an emotive debate.
    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    yeah take it off topic
    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    No everyone would agree with your views on abortion CCTV. It polarises opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    I was on about the use of fetuses in the same comment has the other things you mentioned.and lets understand this . I think whole taking of the knee now is not required..
    Quote Originally Posted by Kev0909 View Post
    where's this come from lolz
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Dynasty View Post
    What drivel is this and what does it have to do with LFC?
    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    we have decided to get players even younger. now they aint even been born yet! thats what its got to do with Liverpool..
    in 17/18 years we will sell them on for nice profit to Salzburg or some Austrian team
    Quote Originally Posted by ianlfc View Post
    Alright Nigel, give it a rest.
    It's matchday !!
    Quote Originally Posted by darrenpotter View Post
    Tell me you are having a breakdown without telling me you are having a breakdown
    Quote Originally Posted by JockStrap View Post
    Nobody is reading this nonsense.

    If there was a mod around they'd have moved it to Off Topic.
    Quote Originally Posted by JockStrap View Post
    Do you think the club and the PL are reading this dross?

    It should be in the bin first but Off Topic isn't much different.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Dynasty View Post
    Is this just a thread for you to stroke your own ego and your own you-know-what, or is there any purpose beyond polluting the forum thanks to lax non-existent moderation?

    Also, if you (i.e. anyone else) agree with this drivel and tripe, you're just as cognitively short-changed and cerebrally under-capitalized as the thread starter and originator.
    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    If you don’t mind me asking mate, are you an Irish catholic by any chance?
    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    My only reason for asking is your vehement Pro Life stance.

    It is a very emotive subject and hardly a debate for a football forum. I also seriously doubt you get any football club to take an official stance one way or another
    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Once any god plays any form in humanity then it can decide.until then let the human race make choices when it comes to abortion. any way.this "god" causes way more miscarriages than the entire human race does on a regular basis.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Dynasty View Post
    I've already added* something of substance.
    (*...."added" being misleading here because the implication would be that there was ANYthing of substance to begin with in the thread to be added to)

    This thread is a self-fellating navel-gazel monument to ego-stroking drivel and knuckle dragging tripe by someone who doesn't even really give a toss about the supposed topic he's bellyaching about, just because they love to hear the sound of their own voice (or in this case, read their own drivel).
    This isn't about "All Children Matter",...or even,.... "White Children Matter".
    It's all about injecting your own subversive "reverse racism" bigoted nonsense into public discourse

    It has nothing to do with the club.
    It should have nothing to do with the club.

    If you really and truly think white children are such a Victim class in need of empathy and consideration then perhaps you ought to take it up with your local authority and representative, or member of parliament and spare the rest of us your pointless nonsense.

    Because the truth of the matter here is that if you really believed this truly had anything to do with the club, you would have taken it to the club and raised it as a matter for the club to address through official channels, since the likelihood that the club would respond to something that was raised in a fan forum, much less even be reading a fan forum, are beyond infinitesmally small to nil. And if you really had any balls or integrity about you, you'd even report back to us how the club responded, which I imagine would be something along the lines of politely telling you to go do one. And justifiably so.

    But we all know you won't.
    Because you need an audience for your soapbox.
    And here we are.
    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    why are you telling me this?? what has abortion got to do with perverts? and yes the justice system is pathetic child perverts should be taken to a deserted island.. they don't belong in society (IMO)
    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    Ok I’m out.

    I was never really in but I’m out now.
    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    me too
    Quote Originally Posted by justincredible View Post
    Must've been a shocker to the wife & kids that....
    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Fetuses are NOT children. on that note.. cheerio
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Dynasty View Post
    Fetuses are not children.

    Nothing in that definition you posted changes that fact.
    And it's conventional practice when you post a definition to also include the source from whence you're posting that definition so that the audience can ascertain that said source does not share the same space as your rectal cavity.

    Also, if it happens 'after birth', then by definition its Murder (or more specifcally 'homicide' or 'infanticide') , and not 'abortion'.

    There are laws for that.
    And there's a reason the law calls it "murder" ('Homicide',...specifically) and not "abortion" - even for a newborn baby just fresh out of the womb.

    Try to see if you can figure out why.

    And another point of note : Giubilini and Minerva are not lawyers, experts in law nor lawmakers. Their OPINION on whether it should be referred to as infanticide, homocide or abortion is entirely irrelevant to the actual law and how the law works.

    Also worth noting: Neither of them are medical experts, physicians, have any experience in actually practising medicine nor conducting medical research.

    As you were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Dynasty View Post
    If the club's stance on abortion or its affiliation with organisations supporting abortion or the right of abortion offends you, then find another club to support.

    Simple.

    It's not that complicated.
    They don't have to bow to your preferences.


    And stop using black people and the black community as a cheap tacky cudgel in your vacuous argument , to make your non-existent and silly point.

    You don't care about black people or what happens to black people in America nor elsewhere.
    Quite the opposite.
    You're offended by the fact that footballers and others in society perform gestures showing support in their fight against racism, and yet here you sit shamelessly acting like you give a toss about them.
    You truly are pathetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    Seriously mate take this elsewhere ffs
    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    You’re the admin maybe move it to off topic

    I have a lot of trauma from 2 aborted babies I’d have had were it my choice

    But this thread shouldn’t really be in the football forum
    Quote Originally Posted by Kev0909 View Post
    Just come on to say why would you bump this?

    Not to mention it could effect people that have been through stuff yeah "bedwetters" whatever you want to say you gimp

    What a fucking nutter you are though, no need for it on here, but apart from that carry on, and for the record- I'd rather abortion's happen instead of people having to live with horrible horrible life-limited coniditons which makes life not even worth living, not to mention how many unwanted kids there would be, the care system would be over-run, and cause a lot of trouble in the long-run, and probably kids getting abused left right and centre, or smackhead parents/parents that can't handle kids so neglect..... you already see it in the news sometimes.

    But do fuck off, what a cunt bumping the thread which obviously has 0 interest and could trigger people in a bad way, noone gives a shit, they didn't first time round, but carry on stats TV

    • Signing off.
    These are the replies on the children's lives matter thread from those against or upset by the motion to some degree.

    I've left my posts out as they are detailed, and in depth, with plenty of facts and trend analysis on topic. And omitted 2 posters who posted in favour of the thread to some degree.

    @Kev0 if you're lurking this thread has a significant amount of views for a small thread.
    So despite the numerous protestations noted above, there are people willing to lurk and read, and some of those might even think about it.
    And the thread started shortly after the Southport non-terror related incident.

    I'd suggest the broad reaction on abortion and ignoring the stats on children who are born, is because vanity was only challenged by those abortion stats.

    So 3 common lines of justification.

    1) You need to minimise the life so its just a clump of cells, not a child.
    This means the ambulance driver might have been unfairly sentenced for 10 years.
    I'll give justme the benefit of the doubt and say justme would say that ambulance driver did do something wrong, so we only use clump of cells when appropriate.
    He murderered her child, she just has her choices to make.

    2) Body autonomy/right to choose. This gets around the need to flip flops on when just some cells are human.
    Of course this is wishful thinking when analysed.
    3 significant causes of choice:
    1) male abortion aka fuck off dad.
    2) economic choices, abortion due to costs.
    3) she doesnt want it.
    I'd suggest the majority of abortions do not meet the standard of consent.

    3)) Helping women,
    To have a massive increase in unexpected pregnancies,
    To have a 15 fold increase in abortions,
    To raise kids alone,
    It should be noted that abortive treatments can be classed as safe, but repeat treatments are not recommended medically.
    It should also be noted that whilst rape can be a valid reason to abort, and rape plays a massive role in advocating for abortion, that the EugencistsUnited who introduced abortion in the UK were effectively covering up gangrape since abortion started.
    The proven benefit of abortion is economic. The overrepresented folks in abortion. Disabled, Black, working class & female. By eliminating more of these cohort there is an economic benefit seen in every nation after abortion is introduced.
    From the chamber to the womb.

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    And if you read every single one of my responses above, even though I completely disagreed with both your point of view and your posting such thoughts on a football forum, all were very respectful.

    But I should be banned according to you.

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    Wow, hes really dragging up comments now..Is there a more obsessive person on Earth than CCTV?
    he must have saved these comments as it's not possible to search for them, anyway (i think)
    Fucking get a life
    Has for my comments, I have no idea what i was replying to and in what context, since i don't have the memory of a computer
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