The Isak Saga

[justme]

Sweden striker Alexander Isak, 25, has told Newcastle he still wants to leave for Liverpool despite the intervention of club chairman Yasir Al-Rumayyan and a meeting with co-owner Jamie Reuben. Telegraph

[shminkyred]

Can I ask… why do we care how Newcastle are making themselves look? Maybe they are simply showing strength… or at least they assume they are? Doing so by indicating that they're prepared to let him rot rather than give him what he wants. It’s a possibility and one I suggest peeves us all as Liverpool fans because we know our owners would rather drown their own mother in law than lose out financially on a deal…

Because we are being made out to be the bad guys. As is Isaak. And it pisses me off. What about when a club decides they don't want the player and sends him to play with the yoots through no real fault of his own.

He said they said

150 million player who didn't get the new contract he was promised?

No smoke without fire

Loony toons

[pob]

Not sure if we need a cb more than isak?

Can't see leoni starting ??

Fuck konate off.

CB has to be the priority. Konate needs to be binned asap, he's a liability.

[toshin]

He definitely needs some comp. Defence has been trash from preseason to now.

I would have liked us to get palhinha, wouldn't have cost much.

Instead i hear we've offered £130m+ for Isak. He was a comparitive no one 2 seasons ago, turns 26 in less than a month with a not so great injury record.

[Insidious]

Instead i hear we've offered £130m+ for Isak. He was a comparitive no one 2 seasons ago, turns 26 in less than a month with a not so great injury record.

At the top, they talk about "moving the needle" and Isak's goal output does just that.

25 goals and 27 goals (all comps) in his last two seasons.

Let's say we get 4 years of that (taking him up to 30) if we bring him in. Bearing in mind that winning the League is something we prize, don't do very often and when we did it last (last season) brought in about £175m for us.

Isak is the type of player that could potentially contribute to us getting one (or even two) League titles in the next 4 years and maybe a Champion's League as well - or at the very least deep runs.

Not to mention the pressure his presence could take off other attacking players - Sarah's output dropping off this season and next (if that happens) partly covered by Isak's presence, Ekitike not having to play every game - and so on.

That £130m, relatively speaking, could represent amazing value for us. I'd love a centre-back as well (ideally both Guehi and Isak come before Monday's deadline) but I don't think we can underestimate what having a forward of Isak's level could do for us.

[pob]

That £130m, relatively speaking, could represent amazing value for us. I'd love a centre-back as well (ideally both Guehi and Isak come before Monday's deadline) but I don't think we can underestimate what having a forward of Isak's level could do for us.

Why should we offer that amount now? Throw 100m at them, with a take it or leave it. They pretty much have to sell him now that his situation is untenable, and no one else other than Arsenal where ever in for him, I don't think. And the lad is desperate to sign for us.

[Steveo]

Sounds like a great way to kill the deal stone dead.

[CCTV]

IMO Newcastle are making themselves look really small time. no player should be bigger than the club and if a player want's to go this badly, see you later mate.

They can't buy big because of PIf, so get your world record transfer fee an rebuild carefully.

Absolute Loony Toons

They've turned their fans on Isak when he should be leaving the club as a club legend and plenty of goodwill to boot.
They've done this all to mask the poor recruitment at the club, failing to replace departed staff.

I'd offer less now than we did earlier in the summer. Hope Newcastle enjoy the downstream consequences with agents over the foreseeable future.

[Insidious]

Why should we offer that amount now? Throw 100m at them, with a take it or leave it. They pretty much have to sell him now that his situation is untenable, and no one else other than Arsenal where ever in for him, I don't think. And the lad is desperate to sign for us.

A £100m bid at this point will be seen as derisory and disrespectful. Newcastle will take it as such and frankly, so might Isak.

We deem the rumoured £150m as being "too much" and they have already turned down a bid of (I think it was) £110m from us. Bidding less than our first bid isn't an intelligent move.

If we offer a "take it or leave it" then £135m or so seems about right. Isak feels appreciated (we're putting in more than our British transfer record bid on Wirtz) and Newcastle get to feed the "well, we tried our best to keep the player - but look, we rinsed Liverpool for £135m" narrative to those who will lap it up and they can buy good players with it, whether that is on deadline day or in January or whatever.

We also get a player that can potentially get us 18-25 League goals in a season for 2-4 of the next 4 years, which, whilst not replacing Salah like-for-like (Isak isn't a right-sided forward) takes massive pressure off us finding a Unicorn for the right-hand side in future.

Worst-case-scenario Newcastle, who have long-term ambitions of regular Champion's League participation and competing for the League, have to stick Gordon up top until the January window and focus on being difficult to beat because they don't get another striker in immediately. With their defensive and midfield prowess, they should really back themselves to get European footie without Isak.

Nobody loses, everybody benefits and there's every chance that our income from a deep Champion's League run combined with the sale of a player we don't use too often under Slot (like Elliott) eats up a big chunk of a fee of a player who will keep us competitive for the Premier League and the Champion's League in the coming seasons, more than making up for the big pay-out, injuries notwithstanding.

[CCTV]

A £100m bid at this point will be seen as derisory and disrespectful. Newcastle will take it as such and frankly, so might Isak.

We deem the rumoured £150m as being "too much" and they have already turned down a bid of (I think it was) £110m from us. Bidding less than our first bid isn't an intelligent move.

If we offer a "take it or leave it" then £135m or so seems about right. Isak feels appreciated (we're putting in more than our British transfer record bid on Wirtz) and Newcastle get to feed the "well, we tried our best to keep the player - but look, we rinsed Liverpool for £135m" narrative to those who will lap it up and they can buy good players with it, whether that is on deadline day or in January or whatever.

We also get a player that can potentially get us 18-25 League goals in a season for 2-4 of the next 4 years, which, whilst not replacing Salah like-for-like (Isak isn't a right-sided forward) takes massive pressure off us finding a Unicorn for the right-hand side in future.

Worst-case-scenario Newcastle, who have long-term ambitions of regular Champion's League participation and competing for the League, have to stick Gordon up top until the January window and focus on being difficult to beat because they don't get another striker in immediately. With their defensive and midfield prowess, they should really back themselves to get European footie without Isak.

Nobody loses, everybody benefits and there's every chance that our income from a deep Champion's League run combined with the sale of a player we don't use too often under Slot (like Elliott) eats up a big chunk of a fee of a player who will keep us competitive for the Premier League and the Champion's League in the coming seasons, more than making up for the big pay-out, injuries notwithstanding.

Isak's valued at €120 million on transfermarkt.
That's £103.4 million.

They've taken the absolute piss this summer.
I'd offer £60mill, take it or leave it, and move on.

Let them keep Isak, and let them see how he "rots on the bench", or how he plays for them, if he does.....

They way people have gone on about Isak this summer, Suarez wouldn't be fit to lace his boots.
#behave

[LFC-DPG]

Thank fook you aren’t in charge of our recruitment

[Jenson78]

Newcastle are clearly struggling to attract any decent striker’s. At what point do they start thinking about bringing former Geordie back. His current club is Dagenham & Redbridge. Kind Regards.

[toshin]

Isak is the type of player that could potentially contribute to us getting one (or even two) League titles in the next 4 years and maybe a Champion's League as well - or at the very least deep runs.

Great, this can be one of those 4 years we dont win it.

They are taking us for mugs. The fact that no one else cares about him this much says alot. who's to say we spend all our cash, have more injuries and win nothing anyway.

For 130m+ we could get someone like alvarez, guehi and have change left for a young talent.
Or, we buy isak in Jan/end of season for far less.

This is like going to a house auction and continually bidding against yourself with no other interested parties. At some point you say no thanks, this isn't reasonable.

[Ravo19]

Cant make my mind up if newcastle are delaying it so isak cant play against arsenal or really struggling to get players in,if the latter that could be a big problem.
Rumour that guehi had agreed to play 2nd leg game for palace tonight.
Time is running out and any plan b's will.look like panic buys.

[Kev0909]

Newcastle are clearly struggling to attract any decent striker’s. At what point do they start thinking about bringing former Geordie back. His current club is Dagenham & Redbridge. Kind Regards.

maybe we should be in for wissa and larsen instead......

at least we've have a few decent players on the bench