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  • #16
    Playing two in the middle and Wirtz as a 10 just has not worked at all for me. It’s created nothing extra while leaving us wiiiide open to counters
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    • #17
      Originally posted by miller0863 View Post
      Playing two in the middle and Wirtz as a 10 just has not worked at all for me. It’s created nothing extra while leaving us wiiiide open to counters
      So what, you think we should get rid of wirtz already or play him at CB or what ?!?!? Lol.

      3 games in, give him time

      not to mention he could've got 2 assists if salah wasn't so rubbish at the time, I can see his quality
      Last edited by Kev0909; 4 September 2025, 11:13 PM.

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      • #18
        I've thought about this for a couple of days, and I've no idea whatsoever!
        BUT
        look at the attacking options we have..
        (AM and FWD)

        Mac Allister
        Wirtz
        Szoboszlai
        Ekitike
        Isak
        Gakpo
        Rio
        Mo Salah

        Can't wait for our next games.
        There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief

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        • #19
          It's a good question

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          • #20
            The question was Kevin, what is YOUR strongest team currently?
            Well what has Wirtz shown YET that’s enough to drop Szoboszlai or MacAllister?

            Then you could play him further forward but he prefers the left so do we leave Gakpo or Ekitike?

            Not saying he won’t come good, I’m saying he hasn’t yet
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            • #21
              Wirtz isn't going to be dropped. He'll get upto speed in the next couple of games. He's already showing flashes of his brilliance. Dunno why so many are panicking...
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              • #22
                Wirtz v Arsenal..

                https://youtu.be/9Dih7cDEyqU?si=KJLQoJEmwRYaZTdP
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                • #23
                  The problem with Wirtz not quite yet being up to speed is not only that he's not offering enough of anything that is needed in the area of the pitch he's currently occupying, but that he's also taking the place of another player who could and probably would currently make us a more solid and cohesive unit, especially when it comes to controlling a game and giving our defence a bit more protection than they've been getting in a fair few of our recent games.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jozza800 View Post
                    Can't see us spending £100m on Wirtz for him not to be in the side.


                    I think it will be pretty much as we've already lined up with Isak in for Ekitike and Frimpong in for Szobo.
                    You cannot drop Eketeeeeeekaaaayyyyy😍

                    That would surley cause resentment in the squad straight away?

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                    • #25
                      Great article from Paul Tomkins on our transfers, that contains this paragraph on Wirtz:....

                      "Florian Wirtz is showing his genius, covering a lot of ground and sprinkling little dabs of beauty, but also is getting his Premier League Lungs, and learning how long you get on the ball before some 6’3” goon scythes you down – 0.0003 seconds. He will need a fair bit of resting, to last the season, as he also gains his Premier League Legs."
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by CCTV View Post
                        It's a good question
                        1) On paper

                        .....................Alisson
                        Frimpong Konate VVD Kerkez
                        ..................Grav MacA
                        ..............Salah Wirtz Gakpo
                        .......................Isak

                        Which is harsh on Sobozla, and Ekitike.

                        2) The tactical tweak and a big game tomorrow...... a 442/4411 shape

                        .....................Alisson
                        Frimpong Konate VVD Robbo
                        ..................Grav MacA
                        ......Sobozla....................Gakpo
                        ..............Salah ...Isak

                        Relying more on the tried and tested, giving license for Salah & Isak up front.

                        3) The interesting best 11, based on whoscored ratings... no Isak obviously

                        .....................Alisson
                        Frimpong Grav VVD Kerkez
                        ..................Sobozla MacA
                        ..............Salah Wirtz Gakpo
                        .......................Ekitike

                        No Konate at CB, he's 12th, so Grav to CB & Sobozla in the pivot.
                        I'd really like to see, Sobozla in the double pivot role. Would be a bit more of a challenge for him than right back imo

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                        • #27
                          What's great is that there isn't yet an obvious XI. There are so many permutations that it could make it difficult for opposition to figure out. It also makes it difficult for Slot to pick a side
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by jozza800 View Post
                            What's great is that there isn't yet an obvious XI. There are so many permutations that it could make it difficult for opposition to figure out. It also makes it difficult for Slot to pick a side
                            Yep, absolutely this. It's great...
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jozza800 View Post
                              What's great is that there isn't yet an obvious XI. There are so many permutations that it could make it difficult for opposition to figure out. It also makes it difficult for Slot to pick a side
                              This is the point. One that could make a huge difference in a season where it’s (statistically) doubtful we manage to avoid any major long term injuries and all major rivals drop both bollocks again.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jozza800 View Post
                                What's great is that there isn't yet an obvious XI. There are so many permutations that it could make it difficult for opposition to figure out. It also makes it difficult for Slot to pick a side
                                Absolutely!

                                Not to mention that we haven't seen our best XI yet, given the foetal stages of the careers of some of the younger players, Isak not having started yet for obvious reasons and experiments Slot may yet make in terms of set-ups.

                                I still hope we deploy a Salah-less diamond with Ekitike and Isak as one of these, which would allow Szoboszlai, Mac Allister, Gravenberch and Wirtz to all be on the pitch simultaneously while Szoboszlai's capacity can cover can do for Frimpong what Hendo used to do for Trent.
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