Match Thread: Liverpool v Man Utd

[justme]

Not really - Slot inherited the team that won the title. Club has spent hundreds of millions on top…. So while agree it seems harsh it is the nature of things

Not really? oh ok then

[Steveo]

Well you have to look at Arsenal when Arteta took over in Late December 2019. The club were nowhere - played 18 games and 23 points sitting below Burnley..! They actually won the FA cup that summer but despite the appointment finished 8th with 56 points. That’s 43 points behind us as champions!



Cannot be forgotten that Arteta had never managed a club before that mid season appointment. The next season his first full season they again finished 8th but managed 61 points. Then 5th and 69 points in 2021/22. 2022/23 and he makes 84 points like we did last season but finished second to City. 2023/24 and he made 89 points and second to City by 1 point.

Compare this to Arne Slot - a seasoned manager taking over from the best manager on the planet who left behind a squad that somehow was capable of going close to a quad the season prior.. winning the title with that squad then spending his own fortune and his team performing like we have of late. 6 losses in our last 16 league games..

So while it is annoying to see Arteta escape what should be very loud voices due to a measly 1 FA cup haul after the MASSIVE money he has spent - I can see why the media aren’t going there.

[Kev0909]

I love how Slot is under pressure yet Arteta whos spent 100s and 100s and 100s of millions more and won 1 fa-cup during lock down in 6 seasons is not under the same pressure. bizarre how things are..

He's not REALLY under pressure though is he ?

keep playing like this with no idea he might be sooner or later mind

On arsenal they've been kind of unlucky, like we was with City, city finally have a bad spell and then we take over.... not to mention all the injury problems last season, they're stacking up again but have squad to deal with it, one has to wonder how they get so many.

[justme]

He's not REALLY under pressure though is he ?

keep playing like this with no idea he might be sooner or later mind

On arsenal they've been kind of unlucky, like we was with City, city finally have a bad spell and then we take over.... not to mention all the injury problems last season, they're stacking up again but have squad to deal with it, one has to wonder how they get so many.

You would think its the end of the world where slot is concerned reading messages on here and how the media is portraying it

[Ravo19]

Back to 4 3 3

[Kev0909]

You would think its the end of the world where slot is concerned reading messages on here and how the media is portraying it

Must say kinda funny skysports suddenly got a article about Klopp the headline title "It is possible I could manage liverpool again"

Bit early for that ey, bit early for klopp SoS call

I do reckon Wirtz and to a lesser extend Isak would already be smashing it under Klopp though, but he's not a idiot we wouldn't have lost diaz without replacing him either.

[Steveo]

Would you expect any less garbage from the media...? I wouldn't. Their entire purpose is to sensationalise everything. Steal the eyeballs and make their narrative the topic of every unthinking pleb out there. Invent calamity where none exists, suggest the best thing today is the bestest thing since sliced bread EVER....and that the thing that is unexpectedly struggling is set sail for imminent doom.

[ianlfc]

The footballing gods seem to have a grudge against us this season and To say its not clicking is a understatement.
Etikite and Chiesa must be wondering why they're not starting aswell.

[jr81]

The footballing gods seem to have a grudge against us this season and To say its not clicking is a understatement.
Etikite and Chiesa must be wondering why they're not starting aswell.

The thing with Ekitike and chiesa is on slot. How he looks at their contributions and doest give em more time is mad.

The other side of it on the recruitment is on the upper management. They spent money, but in my opinion prioritised the wrong areas. The squad isn't balanced throughout. Last year's squad was better, imo.

[Kev0909]

The thing with Ekitike and chiesa is on slot. How he looks at their contributions and doest give em more time is mad.

The other side of it on the recruitment is on the upper management. They spent money, but in my opinion prioritised the wrong areas. The squad isn't balanced throughout. Last year's squad was better, imo.

Exactly, this window was meant to make us better and complete the squad and get the players we needed in specific areas..... that went well we've even got worse in some areas, I.e LW and salah,VVD a season older... we need another attacker, now we need 2 cbs not just bloody one when konate goes, and a midfielder....

a proper RB would've been nice too, I think kerkez will come good, when the team starts playing well... and as a team again.... at some point...still think robbo should be starting the games like against utd and top clubs, due to experience and confidence.... kerkez is very limited, as shown v utd experience... and nerves.....

[teesred]

The footballing gods seem to have a grudge against us this season and To say its not clicking is a understatement.
Etikite and Chiesa must be wondering why they're not starting aswell.

Chiesa has made a difference every time he's came on, even if it's just his energy it shows.
There's plenty of people now saying Mo needs to be rotated. He's not in a position to question why he would be dropped.

[justme]

I would play Salah in midweek. if hes lax then. no chance for the Brentford game.. Id play Dom on the right..in front of either Frimpong or Bradley in the weekend game..
Means you have to pick Jones in the middle or Wirtz. For all the purchases we have made we are still at least short one in the middle. I see theres some disquiet over Frimpong.. Hes had zero time to settle into a position...He started got injured then had a bit part since..

[Steveo]

Good points - agreed on every one of them.

[Nineteenx]

Changing the system is simply dumb and the root of all the issues

We had issues when we had 3 mids pressing and defending ahead of the back four, they made life far easier for them and easier to hold and play a line and defend using the angles they created for them

We were more potent going forward with 433 as we almost always had 2 forwards up on either flank to be released in space

It meant we played with greater intensity variation and cutting edge and consistent and persistent threat and our play was far more varied with a higher tempo and less predictable and easy to set up to defend against and counter on

433 win us the league twice and what would have been four times but fir FAPGMOL

A far greater man than I will ever be once coined the phrase “If it ain’t broken don’t fix it” Slot would do well to heed that greater man’s words

[teesred]

Changing the system is simply dumb and the root of all the issues

We had issues when we had 3 mids pressing and defending ahead of the back four, they made life far easier for them and easier to hold and play a line and defend using the angles they created for them

We were more potent going forward with 433 as we almost always had 2 forwards up on either flank to be released in space

It meant we played with greater intensity variation and cutting edge and consistent and persistent threat and our play was far more varied with a higher tempo and less predictable and easy to set up to defend against and counter on

433 win us the league twice and what would have been four times but fir FAPGMOL

A far greater man than I will ever be once coined the phrase “If it ain’t broken don’t fix it” Slot would do well to heed that greater man’s words

I think it was Plato who said that 19. He put it on his Instagram once.