Match thread Liverpool v Nottingham Forest

[Kev0909]

Nobody saying it’s all on Isak. The question is why is the man who has a zero 0 % win rate starting - starting over a fella with a near 75% win rate when starting…?

Who is steering this ship…?

Also Ekitike is doing just fine until the man who has a zero percent win rate starting was started over him…?

I mean it’s funny that anyone would try to step over that glaring clusterfuck

Erm..... isak only just started over him because he's been out ?

Ekitike has done nothing before that in the last 4, just saying, however i'm not sure why he suddenly threw isak into the team when he's been out once again

Whole team is a mess, but once again you're trying to make it Isak v Ekiteke....... we actually played ok at the start of the season, won 5 in a row didn't we?? of course Ekiteke will have a better win % because we wasn't complete dogshit, and isak was injured during the time we actually won games, I remember them days, those days are gone now, glory glory, LIVERPOOl....... Arne slot...... will he bring the glory days again??...... he'll turn things arounnnnnnnnnnnd......... Arne Slot........... he'll bring the glory days again

Welcome to the new man utd, at least there fans supported the manager and not turned on him 100% soon as the going got tough.

Since first 5 ekiteke done nothing because we lose every week, bit like everyone else, so it's not a really fair comparison is it, he'll probably start against PSV and score because they're championship standard and he'll be gods gift again, so don't worry

Doesn't matter who we start up top really, might as well start Ngog at the moment, or bring back Andy carroll

I thought people was saying we'd be better without trent at the back who can't defend?????? what's going on lads? on top of that, forwards not even getting any supply now, working as intended..... clowns, fullbacks not doing enough, Salah and Gakpo just keep doing the same shit and try be heros gakpo cuts inside fires at a player or just loses it creating anything for Isak/ekiteke is not on the agenda salah just keeps trying to carry but it's not working like it use to anymore....... midfield not the most productive, but we've always counted on the wings........ well yeah it's fucked.

I feel sorry for whoever plays up top, because we're a joke. probably down to tactics and personal..... players need to look at themselves, but slots a fraud too, his job to do something different, his job to sort it out, his job to get supply to ekiteke/isak....... his job not to defend like Children...... his tactics...... change it up you idiot, Gomez in can't be any worse, start robbo play more solid...... if frimpong is ever fit play him at RW at least he has pace on the counter and might provide more...... but let's keep playing the same players, same tactics and hope for the best..... then just throw everyone on from the bench all the attackers and pray to jesus.

[Steveo]

"Doesn't matter who we start up top really". c'mon fellas you can push a narrative only so far.

Using the fact that Ekitike - and the entire team haven't/hasn't performed as well as before the changes is surely a validation of the initial question..


WHY start a new signing from the current league...well cited to have had no pre season...a player described as 'not up to speed' over another player - from another league who was on fire....?

Do any of you who think it has no bearing, honestly believe that inside the dressing room this has no effect..? YOu think it didn't knock Hugo's confidence.. just a liddle-iddy bit? The harmony? The fact that players costing over £100 million seem to be getting priority..? YOu don't think that players who feel their place is safe regardlss play with the intenity of those who know it isn't? Realy?

Think first ...before you move..

[Kev0909]

"Doesn't matter who we start up top really". c'mon fellas you can push a narrative only so far.

Using the fact that Ekitike - and the entire team haven't/hasn't performed as well as before the changes is surely a validation of the initial question..


WHY start a new signing from the current league...well cited to have had no pre season...a player described as 'not up to speed' over another player - from another league who was on fire....?

Do any of you who think it has no bearing. honestly believe that inside the dressing room this has no effect..?

Think first ...before you move..

I'm not against him starting, but you really think he'd have changed the result yesterday or scored???

Let's be real.

Isak should never have come back again after being out and start mind you, I don't know what that's about, desperation maybe?

Still glad trents gone stevo ? be thankful hugo has saved that win% when he starts, think positive ,lols

[Steveo]

Watch it - it's long - scroll to the bits where he talks about us and Jurgen.. See IF you can find out whats missing in November 2025, something missing since well before the end of last season.

[Kev0909]

Watch it - it's long - scroll to the bits where he talks about us and Jurgen.. See IF you can find out whats missing in November 2025, something missing since well before the end of last season.

Does it matter?

yeah Klopps left but wasn't going to be here forever was he?? for me he should've given himself another season but that's on him really, he could've won it last year.

Other teams win stuff without Klopp stevo mate..... other managers are good too---- Klopp did make players run through brick walls etc.. but then we burned out too, remember? plus now on paper we have top quality players and we should'nt have to make up for lack of quality by outworking teams, if you get me?

Klopp wasn't even perfect himself noone is, BUT at least he'd try and change things, and not sanction crazy transfers on positions we didn't need.

[jozza800]

"Doesn't matter who we start up top really". c'mon fellas you can push a narrative only so far.

There's no narrative Steveo.

Isak had one half chance on Saturday and Ekitike didn't touch the ball when he came on. Ekitike didn't get a sniff against City.

Ekitike started the season in excellent fashion but his numbers have fallen off.

And as I say, it's not really his fault, as it isn't really Isak's.

The system is absolutely hamstringing the team. There is so little movement in the side, zero one-twos, zero through balls. The midfield is virtually non-existant.

The team is 70% the side that's been in the last two title challenges. Having 7 or 8 players 'off form', suggests that there is something fundementally wrong.

Unfortunately it looks like it's all steming from the manager...

[Kev0909]

Yes it is the manager but also change in personal...

Diaz made more happen just by spreading the defense and running on the counter, Trent created more with his passing/crossing..... Kerkez isn't providing enough same whoever plays on the right... salah is just trying to carry but it's not working anymore, gakpo is to direct and provides very little..... where does it leave us? Even nunez created more than this shite currently because he could cause chaos

We pass it around, and pass some more.... 74% possesion what is it good for? Nothing because we're slower than a over 50's team going forward

Still no no6 then VVD & Konate been dodgy.... and here we are with only Gomez as backup.

Combined factors, manager and the transfers and staff behind the scenes, I never want whoever is involved in tranfers to be here next summer..... they should be arrested.... for not addresing the positions we actually needed- any other job they'd get the sack.

how can they get it so wrong? the doors that way >>>>>>>>

[Steveo]

There's no narrative Steveo.

Isak had one half chance on Saturday and Ekitike didn't touch the ball when he came on. Ekitike didn't get a sniff against City.

Ekitike started the season in excellent fashion but his numbers have fallen off.

And as I say, it's not really his fault, as it isn't really Isak's.

The system is absolutely hamstringing the team. There is so little movement in the side, zero one-twos, zero through balls. The midfield is virtually non-existant.

The team is 70% the side that's been in the last two title challenges. Having 7 or 8 players 'off form', suggests that there is something fundementally wrong.

Unfortunately it looks like it's all steming from the manager...

Possibly but seems harsh to put it all on him. I can’t believe he chose to drop Ekitike over an unfit Isak without pressure applied. i cannot believe he was happy with the Diaz sale.. I don' believe he had much of a hand in Wirtz. Just my hunch..


IF he did and those were all on him... then he wasn't watching last season or the season prior - and we really did just ride the crest of a wave generated by Klopp for 2/3rds of last season and it's over.

It would leave us in the unenviable position where it's hard to defend against the claims -from some in Holland -who stated that we got the lesser of Ten Hag when Arne was announced as a successor.

[Steveo]

Yes it is the manager but also change in personal...

Diaz made more happen just by spreading the defense and running on the counter, Trent created more with his passing/crossing..... Kerkez isn't providing enough same whoever plays on the right... salah is just trying to carry but it's not working anymore, gakpo is to direct and provides very little..... where does it leave us? Even nunez created more than this shite currently because he could cause chaos

We pass it around, and pass some more.... 74% possesion what is it good for? Nothing because we're slower than a over 50's team going forward

Still no no6 then VVD & Konate been dodgy.... and here we are with only Gomez as backup.

Combined factors, manager and the transfers and staff behind the scenes, I never want whoever is involved in tranfers to be here next summer..... they should be arrested.... for not addresing the positions we actually needed- any other job they'd get the sack.

how can they get it so wrong? the doors that way >>>>>>>>

Yes - this makes the most sense to me

[sydenham red]

Buy a central defender (2 needed if somehow we get a fee for konate in this window) and a defensive midfielder bare minimum. Its unfortunate as Leoni would have been eased in but we can't afford to wait on him. In as soon as window opens and hopefully not cup tied for CL if that's still a rule.

[jozza800]

Possibly but seems harsh to put it all on him. I can’t believe he chose to drop Ekitike over an unfit Isak without pressure applied. i cannot believe he was happy with the Diaz sale.. I don' believe he had much of a hand in Wirtz. Just my hunch..

We'll obviously never know these sorts of ins-outs of the inner workings of the club but i'm sure like you, he wont have been happy with the sale of Diaz but he'd have certainly been part of the conversation of the incommings.

Even if he is just the 'coach', he'd have his input or at least been asked about how he planned to set up the team this season.

He hasn't turned up at pre-season, seen Isak, Wirtz, Ekitke and thought, 'mmm, where have these lads come from? How do I fit all of these players in the team?"

Even if he hasn't had any say in who or what type of player that's been brought in he should be getting far more out of them.

I'm sick of seeing this weeking week out...

Konate - VVD


Szobo - Salah - Wirtz - Isak - Grav - Mac - Gakpo - Kerkez

[Steveo]

But there is a huge difference between turning up at pre season and seeing the players you have been granted and turning up pre season and not getting anything you specified to be what was needed.

So until we know WHO is responsible we cannot really judge, Oh and I suggest that IF Austen Powers and his sidekick Hughes weren’t the key players in all of the above - what the fuck have they been doing for a year and a half…? Scratching their arses?

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They certainly looked pleased with themselves in May…

[RedMagic]

When Ekitike has started we've won 75% of our games. When he hasn't started we've won 0% of our games.

[jinky]

For me sort the defence out and the rest will sort itself out in time. We need clean sheets. How we've got such a threadbare back 4 is negligent.
If this negligence is on Slot then that is a worry.
As for last year I'm not sure we win the league if Klopp was still here.
Anyway, for me the season is done. I can't watch the Arsenal do what we did last season. Added to that nothing this season will come close to the joy of that night at Hampden.

[Nineteenx]

I’d have kept Diaz and Nunez Nunez was a menace even when missing he was captain chaos