Taxi for Slot

[Red October]

We are far too predictable.

You know with Mo and Gakpo exactly what they are going to do every time they get the ball.

Diaz offered something different, he could cut inside, take the player on the outside. You never knew with him and we miss that.

Someone needs to tell mo that there's no point trying to take on 3 men. You're never going to beat them. He tried it again last night. Wasn't as bad last night but still lost the ball needlessly. Also tell him he needs to find others. His shooting is never gonna get us a goal . He's missing that turn of pace to get the shot away.

[sydenham red]

Someone needs to tell mo that there's no point trying to take on 3 men. You're never going to beat them. He tried it again last night. Wasn't as bad last night but still lost the ball needlessly. Also tell him he needs to find others. His shooting is never gonna get us a goal . He's missing that turn of pace to get the shot away.

Him and gakpo are very predictable. No byline crosses from either which would suit isak/etikite. My sons football team is better coached. Even if new signings aren't what Slot wanted, he has to use them better. Like it or not the first team manager role has changed in most cases.

[Lenouis]

Funny how a lot of today’s headlines focuses on Salah not being happy on the bench.

What about the Manager who is showing week after week that he doesn’t have a clue what to do with this team??

[Nineteenx]

He’s trying to make a team that won the toughest league to win last season all accommodate Wirtz at No10

No team has a superstar player these days and if we did there’d be several we’d all choose ahead of Wirtz

[miller0863]

Wirtz for me is the biggest mistake, bigger still than Diaz going. Not just the player himself or even his price tag, it’s the decision to rip up the winning blueprint and change formation and tactics.

Absolute mess.

[toshin]

Wirtz for me is the biggest mistake, bigger still than Diaz going. Not just the player himself or even his price tag, it’s the decision to rip up the winning blueprint and change formation and tactics.

Absolute mess.

The biggest mistake could end up being Slot. The team were so used to each other and the style that perhaps any manager might have won the league last season. Especially with Arsenal and City having poor ones and dropping out so early. Reminds me of the titles Manutd used to win before the Chelsea and City riches.

I've said it in the other thread, I agree about Diaz being a mistake. He was unique and is not even close to being replaced. To me, the buys of Wirtz and Isak almost seem like the owners didn't want to lose 'face' again and be ridiculed after the sagas with all the players Chelsea beat us on.

That said, we still have some of the best players - especially in attack, in the world. You cannot tell me that most of the losses like 3 fucking nil at home to forest are a reflection of the current squads abilities.
I agree we do not have the depth to challenge arsenal this season, and even city, but cmon.

Almost everything else is down to slot.

We were atrocious in attack yesterday and most of the season tbf, with all we've spent in that area.
With the subs, Slot could have taken gomez off, put on Endo to control the MF even more, and considered bringing on Chiesa earlier. I'm actually amazed he took off gakpo so early, but if it wasn't for salah I'm certain he'd have persisted with this for 85' then asked Rio or someone to win us the game.

Now, maybe this change would have backfired too and the result would have been the same (or worse without that clearance).
But this is why Slot is being paid the big bucks.

I would say he is currently less deserving of it than Konate and Salah.

[darrenpotter]

How many players are minding themselves, world cup year and other stuff, virgil, konate, macallister, gravenberch, salah all seriously below par. We are getting an enhanced szobozlai since hungary got binned out of world cup.

[jr81]

Oliver Glasners doing the rounds as a replacement. Not sure how I feel about that one.

[CCTV]

Henry's Gimp cannot face reality.. hilarious watching him rant and rave while digging himself further into the sod he is surrounded by.

We all know how much was spent and how little ours was compared to Arteta but no - the shill wants to bend light.. By his logic Arteta is a giant of a manager, one of the very best there's been to have closed that gap of 40 points on the best manager on the planet so fast..

AS for last season. well unfortunately for you...Slot admitted everything I said.. Trigger 1

The Club acted accordingly this summer to further back up what I suggested years ago.. Trigger 2


The statements on Klopp walking because of the squad are - as usual - being totally taken out of context by the creep. Having to build a squad to compete with City and more recently Arsenal on a sell to buy were absolutely part of what played into his exhaustion. I saw it a few months before he decided to leave which he has since admitted was the Klopp 2.0 summer. And the squad he left had about 12 top level players.. Just about.. not nearly enough to compete on more than one front and in most seasons - go take a look... not nearly enough to win a title.

The end for the 'F$G Fan Boi'

A summary of 20/21 to 23/24 spending:

Arsenal Spent a further 227.5 mill net over
181.3 gross in the Klopp v Arteta era. And had a greater market value shift +106.5 mill from transfers.

Your position is that this spending, an extra €106.5 million in players added to his squad net compared with Klopp, was enough investment for him to overtake Klopp.

Arteta spent €674.9 mill gross
Klopp spent €493.7 mill gross.........

Comparing the top 12 most expensive signings over their shared era, it is.....

Rice
Havertz
White
Jesus
Partey
Cauliflower
Timber
Ooodegard
Zinchenko
Viera
Merino
Raya

Versus

Nunez
Sobozla
Jota
Gakpo
MacA
Konate
Grav
Thiago
Endo
Tsimi
Carvalho
Minamino

At this point, you might want to wax lyrically about Artetas 12 lads, it might help in making your case. I've analysed the figures and listed 12 players that account for 90% of his spend and given the 12 Klopp signed players to match.

It could make for interesting discussion.

I genuinely don't see much support for your position

https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?310133-Top6-spends-analysed-by-MV-13-14-onwards/page4

You never waxed lyrically about how that amount of net spend, and those 12 most expensive additions of both managers "culminated in the best manager around walking early." Having been "overtaken" by Arteta.

And that was also provided on page 4, itemised by season.

LFC

20/21 -67.6m (mv gain +94.65)
Spent 84.8 value 182.5
Sold 17.2 value 87.85

21/22 -59.35 (mv gain +22)
Spent 91 value 155
Sold 31.65 value 133

22/23 -65.1 (mv gain 34.7)
Spent 145.8 value 165
Sold 80.7 value 130.3

23/24 -111.8 (mv gain 29.8)
Spent 172 value 191.5
Sold 60.7 value 161.7

Total 303.85 net.
Gross spend 493.6
Gross sales 190.25
Market value shift +181.15

https://www.transfermarkt.com/liverpool-fc/transfers/verein/31/plus/?saison_id=2023&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

Arsenal

20/21 -66.85 (MV gain +43.55)
Spent 86 value 229.3
Sold 19.15 value 185.75

21/22 -136 (Mv loss -59.3)
Spent 167.4 value 185.85
Sold 31.4 value 245.15

22/23 -162.6 (Mv +171.8)
Spent 186.4 value 370
Sold 23.8 value 198.2

23/24 -165.9 (mv gain +131.6)
Spent 235.1 value 319.9
Sold 69.2 value 188.3

Total 531.35 net.
Gross spend 674.9
Gross sales 143.55
Market value shift +287.65

https://www.transfermarkt.com/arsenal-fc/transfers/verein/11/plus/?saison_id=2020&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

I don't mind being called an fsg fan boi, as I think they're relatively good owners.
Anfield revamped to your disgust.
Nearly won 6 PL titles since they arrived.
13/14, 18/19, 19/20, 21/22, 23/24 & 24/25.
Won 2 & lost 4 to Cituae... again you rarely mention citaue at all like some weirdo islamophile starmer enforcee


https://tomkinstimes.com/2015/11/klopp-reversing-the-laws-of-gravity/

That's a profile of Klopp given in 2015. You seem to blame FSG for hiring Klopp, and Klopp being Klopp.
You constantly accuse Klopp of running players in to the ground like some sly/bt dullard and ignore the running stats provided by myself that showed up the Sly/BT take.
I'm glad you've found a new love in Kroenke & Arteta

[Steveo]

Are you listening Henry’s GIMP?


Klopp did run players into the ground

Klopp HAD to run players into the ground IF we were to win things.



THIS IS THE ENTIRE POINT - as the F$G Fan Boi knows full well.

He’s clearly not as smart as I credited him with but surely he cannot be that obtuse not to be capable of joining the dots?

[CCTV]

I've given you a direct quote of what you said about Arteta "overtaking" Klopp...

I've broken down the spending gaps by season..

Ive given you the 12 most expensive signings of the shared Klopp and Arteta era.

And yet you still can't back up what you said in any demonstrable way.. cant wax lyrically...

I see your back to FSG and talking absolute bollocks...

No integrity. No substance.

[Steveo]

Still arguing against a point I didn't make.

Stating that Arteta overtook Klopp in the league table is a fact, not an opinion on who is the 'better' coach.

The reason for that overtake is the substance you're ignoring: Backing.

The fact is Arteta has averaged well over £80 million per transfer window net - Klopp had less than £40 million a season. It’s half the backing from an already lower net spend which predated Mikel up at the Arsenal.

You can list 'expensive signings' all you want, but the Net Spend data proves Klopp was operating with one hand tied behind his back compared to the investment Arsenal put into their rebuild. Klopp’s squad was running on fumes after winning everything, while Arteta was allowed to spend heavily to refresh. Ignoring that financial handicap is where the real lack of integrity lies.

[JockStrap]

This thread makes for intereseting reading. Any wonder I don't visit this place.

🤡 🤡 LISTEN UP CLOWNS 🤡 🤡

Now is the time to support the team and the club. There's a lot going on that make it a difficult season. The new players haven't settled yet, Jota's death is still having an impact and Salah needs a rest. Oh and we lost the best right back in the world in the summer. Remember how you all bragged that we'd be better off without him?

A lot of our problems have been down to the defense. Konate has played like a drunken Traore for most of the season. Kerkez doesn't look quite good enough and we badly miss the aforementioned TAA. That's life girls.

There is still plenty to be positive about. Wirtz is a class player. Isak will come good. Our manager was brilliant last year. He made so many good decisions at half-time which helped change games for us. He hasn't suddenly forgotten that. And Mo? Let's hope he's got a few good months left in him.

There you go. Ups and downs. Swings and roundabouts. Call it whatever you want. Every club has dips in form. We're currently in one. How you react defines you as a fan. You lot are a bunch of shithouses.

[CCTV]

Still arguing against a point I didn't make.

Stating that Arteta overtook Klopp in the league table is a fact, not an opinion on who is the 'better' coach.

The reason for that overtake is the substance you're ignoring: Backing.

The fact is Arteta has averaged well over £80 million per transfer window net - Klopp had less than £40 million a season. It’s half the backing from an already lower net spend which predated Mikel up at the Arsenal.

You can list 'expensive signings' all you want, but the Net Spend data proves Klopp was operating with one hand tied behind his back compared to the investment Arsenal put into their rebuild. Klopp’s squad was running on fumes after winning everything, while Arteta was allowed to spend heavily to refresh. Ignoring that financial handicap is where the real lack of integrity lies.

The reason you have never defended your position is that after I analysed it and showed the 12 most expensive additions of both managers, you realised just how silly your position is...

Comparing the top 12 most expensive signings over their shared era, it is.....

Rice
Havertz
White
Jesus
Partey
Cauliflower
Timber
Ooodegard
Zinchenko
Viera
Merino
Raya

Versus

Nunez
Sobozla
Jota
Gakpo
MacA
Konate
Grav
Thiago
Endo
Tsimi
Carvalho
Minamino

Once the players were put in front of you, you dissappear

No integrity, no substance.

[LFC-DPG]

Jocky is back to clean up this mess.