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  • #16
    Originally posted by Red October View Post
    Would you come into our club right now? Would you have faith based on the way he's managed new players so far?
    Depends on the player.

    Plenty wouldn't, but loads of lads have the ego/self-belief (not always a bad thing) to think "I'll be the one that fixes this" or "I've a chance to get European football with this team" or "I am the signing that makes this work" - etc etc

    I could imagine a DM for example enjoying being part of a midfield that includes options like Szoboszlai, Gravenberch and Mac Allister - or a central defender who backs themselves to be Van Dijk's eventual replacement - or a winger who takes the baton from Salah and has lads with the finishing power of Isak and Ekitike to pass the ball to.

    As much as things are on the brink for us if we have another bad run of results, there's also loads of potential here. An imbalanced squad for sure - but plenty of quality there - biggest question at the moment is the Manager.
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    • #17
      Insidious, I think you are giving footballers too much credit. Most, if not all footballers are almost entirely focused on making the most money at a club that will offer them the best chance of success. They really aren't concerned about things such as whether they could be our next VVD or Salah.

      If a club whose team looks well organised, are currently playing winning football, and look like they will win silverware comes in for a player, as long as they are offering similar wages to us, there is a good chance that they won't join us, especially given that we are currently a bit of a clown show.

      If you have a short period of time to get to a particular destination, what car would you pick if you had a choice between a clown car where the wheels and doors look like they are about to fall off, or a reliable car from a quality car company such as a mid to high range Mercedes?

      People are convinced that Guehi has given us his word that he'll be joing us either in January or in the summer, but if we don't start showing some serious improvement on the pitch, I can see him going elsewhere.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Red October View Post
        Would you come into our club right now?
        Yes. As would most players in world football.

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        • #19
          A lot will depend on where we are in January.

          For me there are 4 senior players that could move in January that would be seismic in terms of departures.

          Mo, VVD, Konate & Maca.

          I think a lot of our problems this season come down to their performances & attitudes.

          When it comes to the dressing room being lost, VVD & Mo seem to be the stand out guys.
          Both were awful v psv and Jones did the talking post match after their performances.

          Salah will go down as a legend but hes been like this before doing pressers like tonight when Klopp was in charge.

          It's the 1st time Virgil has disappointed at LFC for me, but he's been shocking this season.

          For me, it is similar to utd with Jose. You can sack the manager all you like but you need to get the players out who'll tank our club when it suits them.

          If MacA & Konate want real they can leave too.

          Clear as day that many others are giving it their best. As a man once said, attitude is more important that talent.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by CCTV View Post
            A lot will depend on where we are in January.

            For me there are 4 senior players that could move in January that would be seismic in terms of departures.

            Mo, VVD, Konate & Maca.

            I think a lot of our problems this season come down to their performances & attitudes.

            When it comes to the dressing room being lost, VVD & Mo seem to be the stand out guys.
            Both were awful v psv and Jones did the talking post match after their performances.

            Salah will go down as a legend but hes been like this before doing pressers like tonight when Klopp was in charge.

            It's the 1st time Virgil has disappointed at LFC for me, but he's been shocking this season.

            For me, it is similar to utd with Jose. You can sack the manager all you like but you need to get the players out who'll tank our club when it suits them.

            If MacA & Konate want real they can leave too.

            Clear as day that many others are giving it their best. As a man once said, attitude is more important that talent.
            Good points. Salah is acting like a diva and it's not a good look but it does highlight something is clearly wrong backstage.
            Absolutely right about some giving it their best but it only takes one or two at this level to be below their best and before you know it it results in this situation.
            What id like to know is what has started all this. Where did it begin? Hope to God we aren't at a point that Utd were where there was real poison in the camp.
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            • #21
              Wes need to buy four cbs in January then though. Clubs dropped the ball in some way obviously. Players are out of form lacking in confidence and looking like they are a bit despondent. It happens. Club needs to figure out the best way to remedy that whether its players manager or both or nether that needs to go.

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              • #22
                Saudi club Al-Hilal are ready to launch a January bid for Liverpool's Egypt winger Mohamed Salah, 33. (Sun), external

                Liverpool have already lined up a replacement for Salah - Bournemouth's Ghana international forward Antoine Semenyo, 25. (Express)
                I suppose the conclusion is we need VVD more than we need Mo, shame, depends on what is offered, Mo's salary would be split between at least two incoming Semenyo and Guehi ???? an era is coming to an end

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                • #23
                  Mo is heading off to Afcon for a month. I’ve no idea why he felt the need to throw a grenade at Slot before leaving. If he’s going to sulk at being benched then maybe it’s best he move on in January.

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                  • #24
                    Oh the irony...


                    IF Salah thought he was applying pressure to the manager, then he went completely the wrong way about it. He's actually liberated him. By making it public, Mo made the issue about his own attitude rather than Slot's ability. He absorbed all the media heat, allowed Slot to demonstrate absolute authority, and created a scenario where Slot wins regardless of how Salah performs next, if indeed he ever gets the chance.

                    Let's see how many folks wake up, and start to think a little differently about this.

                    Here's a thought: Perhaps Slot was never the target of his ire..?

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                    • #25
                      Tell us Victor, what's this cryptic, 4D chess that Salah is playing that only you and he can understand.

                      I mean Salah clearly isn't lashing out because he's been benched so what is the reason for running to the press.

                      Hang on, I'm gettting signals here ... It's starting to become clear ....

                      It's ...

                      Wow. It's F$G. Who could have guessed.

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                      • #26
                        This is some subliminal stuff from Mo. When he says this, it has nothing to do with him being dropped:

                        What couldn't you believe? "That I'm sitting on the bench for 90 minutes! The third time on the bench, I think for the first time in my career. I'm very, very disappointed to be fair. I have done so much for this club down the years and especially last season.

                        "Now I'm sitting on the bench and I don't know why. It seems like the club has thrown me under the bus. That's how I am feeling. I think it is very clear that someone wanted me to get all of the blame.

                        "I got a lot of promises in the summer and so far I am in the bench for three games so I can't say they keep the promise.

                        "I said many times before that I had a good relationship with the manager and all of a sudden, we don't have any relationship. I don't know why, but it seems to me, how I see it, that someone doesn't want me in the club.

                        "This club, I always support it. My kids will always support it. I love the club so much. I will always do. I called my mum yesterday - you guys didn't know if I would start or not, but I knew.

                        "Yesterday I said to them, come to the Brighton game [on 13 December]. I don't know if I am going to play or not, but I am going to enjoy it. In my head, I'm going to enjoy that game because I don't know what is going to happen now.

                        "I will be in Anfield to say goodbye to the fans and go to Africa Cup of Nations. I don't know what is going to happen when I am there."
                        Clearly he's not thinking about being on the bench at all. It's a brilliant ploy to free up Slot. Or something.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Steveo View Post
                          Oh the irony...


                          IF Salah thought he was applying pressure to the manager, then he went completely the wrong way about it. He's actually liberated him. By making it public, Mo made the issue about his own attitude rather than Slot's ability. He absorbed all the media heat, allowed Slot to demonstrate absolute authority, and created a scenario where Slot wins regardless of how Salah performs next, if indeed he ever gets the chance.

                          Let's see how many folks wake up, and start to think a little differently about this.

                          Here's a thought: Perhaps Slot was never the target of his ire..?
                          "I’m very, very disappointed to be fair. I have done so much for this club down the years and especially last season.

                          "Now I’m sitting on the bench and I don’t know why. It seems like the club has thrown me under the bus. That is how I am feeling. I think it is very clear that someone wanted me to get all of the blame.

                          "I got a lot of promises in the summer and so far I am on the bench for three games so I can’t say they keep the promise.

                          "I said many times before that I had a good relationship with the manager, and all of a sudden we don’t have any relationship.

                          "I don’t know why but it seems to me, how I see it, that someone doesn’t want me in the club.

                          "This club, I always support it. My kids will always support it. I love the club so much I will always do. I called my mum yesterday – you guys didn’t know if I would start or not, but I knew.

                          "Yesterday I said to them, come to the Brighton game. I don’t know if I am going to play or not but I am going to enjoy it.

                          "In my head, I’m going to enjoy that game because I don’t know what is going to happen now.

                          "I will be in Anfield to say goodbye to the fans and go the Africa Cup of Nations. I don’t know what is going to happen when I am there."
                          He spoke directly about Slot, having no relationship with Slot now. Having said nice things about him in the past.

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                          • #28
                            Guehi won't leave in January. For the sake of six months in a team that has a lot of potential this season to a team in crisis, he won't risk becoming like Isak to the Newcastle fans.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by redgold View Post
                              Guehi won't leave in January. For the sake of six months in a team that has a lot of potential this season to a team in crisis, he won't risk becoming like Isak to the Newcastle fans.
                              He's not refusing Liverpool to stay at Palace.

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                              • #30
                                Step forward and explain how Salah’s outburst has done anything other than cast him as the a villain and into the bargain take a huge amount of pressure and all the debate about Slot and his predicament completely off the front pages..?

                                Please expose your naivety.

                                and:


                                "I said many times before that I had a good relationship with the manager, and all of a sudden we don’t have any relationship.”

                                "I don’t know why but it seems to me, how I see it, that someone doesn’t want me in the club.”

                                If this isn’t as clear an indication that Salah feels like pressure is being applied from over the managers head…. then I don’t know what is.

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