Liverpool v Man City

[Nineteenx]

A week to prepare work on everything we’ve been improving these last 2 games to improve it further and further as we always should

Team

Given it worked today and we have the option to bring a player on and move Szobo into midfield

Alisson

Szobo Konate Van Dijk Kerkez

Gravenberch Mac Allister Wirtz

Salah Ekitike Gakpo

Wirtz arriving rather than starting up there is really paying dividends for me

Great ball today from Kerkez for Ekitike’s second need more of that from him and better delivery and working of the space when further forward

Get the win be direct mix it up attack quickly no slowing it down going backwards unnecessarily

[shminkyred]

Since winning everything and buioding his new squad....How much has Pep spent? Seeing that he is the best manager the workd has ever seen...allegedly....its been a couple of not great seasons so far for him anx shitty..... Does it put Slots season into perspective?

[JockStrap]

Since winning everything and buioding his new squad....How much has Pep spent? Seeing that he is the best manager the workd has ever seen...allegedly....its been a couple of not great seasons so far for him anx shitty..... Does it put Slots season into perspective?

Wait. You're on this forum asking for perspective? All they do here is call for the manager to be sacked and the owners to be ousted.

But you are correct. Never mind Pep for a second. If the clowns in the fanbase could put 2 and 2 together they'd realise that if the league winning manager is no longer good enough, what does that say about all the other managers? You know, the ones who didn't win the league.

As for Pep and City, he's in the middle of his own squad rebuild. They have bought a number of players and lost De Bruyne. Some are struggling for whatever reason. Take Marmoush for example, bought for £60m, started well but has done very little this season due to injury and not playing much. Two goals in 19 appearances although he has played very few minutes.

So yes perspective would be nice but it's beyond most football fans. Team lose, team crap. Team lose again, sack manager.

[JockStrap]

Alisson

Gomez Konate Van Dijk Kerkez

Gravenberch Mac Allister

Salah Slobo Wirtz

Ekitike

Tough one whether to start Slobo or Gakpo. Szoboszlai slows the play down too much for my liking but he offers good workrate which will be important against City.

[Nineteenx]

Since winning everything and buioding his new squad....How much has Pep spent? Seeing that he is the best manager the workd has ever seen...allegedly....it’s been a couple of not great seasons so far for him anx shitty..... Does it put Slots season into perspective?

To me, looking at the play of both it revealed Slot & Guardiola both made the same incredible misjudgement that slow controlled short passing possession in a 4231 would magically work again in the Premier League

[Insidious]

Since winning everything and buioding his new squad....How much has Pep spent? Seeing that he is the best manager the workd has ever seen...allegedly....its been a couple of not great seasons so far for him anx shitty..... Does it put Slots season into perspective?

Football adapts to innovations all the time and the increase in man-to-man pressing structures as a combative weapon against the positional play that was so effective for a number of years is definitely a thorn in Pep's side.

We increasingly see centre-back willing to follow their man in a way we wouldn't have seen 5-10 years ago, so exploiting the half-space and "Zone 14" as I think Rodgers called it is less simple as football adapts.

Mourinho came to look like a Dinosaur. Pep's turn will come too - happens to them all.

[Steveo]

All true but nobody can ignore the 115 charges against City - which they had hoped to quash within a year.

Like Andrew and Epstein - they won’t go away and have coincided with their slump. There is a cloud over the club.

I’m sure the intention isn’t to even punish then with anything beyond the current reality. The effect is perfection. The appearance of a Kosha league and the gradual impediment of money from outside the US and its influence on the Premier league. The target is total regime change after all - and as a majority are already in situ… this one can just be left to hang. Keep the gulf states in play - unable to dominate but still there as a mask for the real invasion.

[JockStrap]

I know people like to complain about FSG but if FFP had been enforced we would have had more league titles by now.

[Steveo]

BTW - it's F$G - and their only motive for FFP is to minimise their own risk.


Oh - and had Klopp been backed with better than 6th across his tenure we would have easily won more titles and European cups too.

Rank,Club,Total Spend (Est.),Total Income (Est.),Net Spend (Est.)
1,Manchester United,£1.65 Billion,£350 Million,-£1.30 Billion
2,Chelsea,£2.10 Billion,£1.05 Billion,-£1.05 Billion
3,Arsenal,£1.25 Billion,£450 Million,-£800 Million
4,Manchester City,£1.50 Billion,£820 Million,-£680 Million
5,Tottenham,£1.15 Billion,£600 Million,-£550 Million
6,Liverpool,£900 Million,£560 Million,-£340 Million

[JockStrap]

If FFP had been enforced we would have had more league titles by now. Nothing to do with FSG. The club will always run within it's means and that's fine with me. They spent whatever money was available. People conveniently forget that £60m was pissed away on Nunez whilst moaning about net spend.

But we're getting off topic. I suppose it's okay in the City thread.

[Steveo]

BTW - it's F$G - and their only motive for FFP is to minimise their own risk. We know who the FFP warriors are - we know why they are here and why they want it. The very folks from the land of free market capital.. suddenly wanting the caps to facilitate unbridled profit. But the minions fall for it while the shill tries to justify it.


Oh - and had Klopp been backed with better than 6th across his tenure we would have easily won more titles and European cups too.

Premier League "Big Six" Net Spend (2015–2024)

Rank,Club,Total Spend (Est.),Total Income (Est.),Net Spend (Est.)
1,Manchester United,£1.65 Billion,£350 Million,-£1.30 Billion
2,Chelsea,£2.10 Billion,£1.05 Billion,-£1.05 Billion
3,Arsenal,£1.25 Billion,£450 Million,-£800 Million
4,Manchester City,£1.50 Billion,£820 Million,-£680 Million
5,Tottenham,£1.15 Billion,£600 Million,-£550 Million
6,Liverpool,£900 Million,£560 Million,-£340 Million

[JockStrap]

The 115 charges have been broken down to five different categories.

• 54x Failure to provide accurate financial information 2009-10 to 2017-18.

• 14x Failure to provide accurate details for player and manager payments from 2009-10 to 2017-18.

• 5x Failure to comply with Uefa's rules including Financial Fair Play (FFP) 2013-14 to 2017-18.

• 7x Breaching Premier League's PSR rules 2015-16 to 2017-18.

• 35x Failure to co-operate with Premier League investigations December 2018 - Feb 2023.

In an interview with BBC sports editor Dan Roan on Wednesday, Premier League CEO Richard Masters said he stands by the legal process despite the costs involved and complexities of the case.

"There is no happy alternative to enforcing the rules, it goes to the integrity of the competition - it goes ultimately to value - and that principle shouldn't be defrayed in any way by being too difficult, too complex, or too costly," said Masters.

What exactly has any of that got to do with FSG?

If FFP had been enforced we would have had more league titles by now.

[Nineteenx]

Got to be direct and attack at pace going to goal in as few passes as possible, like us that’s what they have been struggling against except especially with Doku out we’re a lot better than them at attacking quickly and directly if Slot lets us

Trying to out overpass them won’t end well it’s crucial Slot allows us to play as we have to win 3 of the last 4

A week to prepare work on everything we’ve been improving these last 2 games to improve it further and further as we always should

Team

Given it worked today and we have the option to bring a player on and move Szobo into midfield

Alisson

Szobo Konate Van Dijk Kerkez

Gravenberch Mac Allister Wirtz

Salah Ekitike Gakpo

Wirtz arriving rather than starting up there is really paying dividends for me

Great ball today from Kerkez for Ekitike’s second need more of that from him and better delivery and working of the space when further forward

Get the win be direct mix it up attack quickly no slowing it down going backwards unnecessarily

[ianlfc]

Anyone going to the match ?

[sydenham red]

Anyone going to the match ?

me and 3 mates over for it, although 2 of them now going a day early as Nick Ball's fighting Sat nite.