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  • #46
    Originally posted by TheDOC1979 View Post
    I didn’t class it as being racist initially to be honest. A debate went on, and yes his profile suggested he liked cricket, but also supported Villa. Because the lads surname was Afridi, doesnt mean he should stick to cricket. I get what you mean about Americans as they don’t have football, its soccer there. I would have laughed it off personally and I’m not from a country that even plays the sport. (Ireland a Side but they are dud) It’s just that when you’re an ethnic minority in this country in particular, you have probably experienced subtle racism on a higher scale and will read into things a bit more.

    Free expression? That’s very broad. Do you also take into consideration free speech in regards to sexuality and gender identity? Or is that a no no and talking about race and religion in a discriminatory way is you practising your freedom?
    Steveo did the same with me about hurling iirc

    I'm not definite about your stance, but I'd imagine there are people who are looking for that "educated" teacher to lose their job over social media postings.
    Why do such people think he should lose his job, when footballers dont lose theirs? Sterling cheerlead the battered in the streets chant about an attack on an ethnic minority in the UK, but he still has a place in society, man city team still have their jobs and he still represents the nation. Is it because he has the profile and adulation to get away with such transgressions.
    I wouldnt like to see anyone lose their job over such matters.

    How do you talk about anything without discriminating ?
    I think you have to be able to express yourself freely, few on here seem to have a problem declaring their feelings on matters and I think its best that people can say what they like, especially online.

    In terms of sexuality and gender identity, why should it be any different ?
    Do you what to ball and gag folks ?

    The age of consent, abortion legality or morality, laws around age of consent for sex or gender therapy (like is it ok to decide your 3 year old told you to reassign their gender?), sex workers rights versus turn off the red light, support you sex workers or not, is it transphobic for a woman to complain about a man's penis and balls being exposed in woman only spaces, are woman only spaces permitted, are man spaces permitted, should there be female/male/mixed spaces, can you change your sex/gender identity, does it have to be static, fluid or exclusionary, can you change your race/ethnic identity, does it have to be static, fluid or exclusionary, can you identify as a pixie, unicorn, furry, fairy/pixie. Do you have opinions on abstinence, sex before marriage, spreading STDs, doing it knowingly but without informing a potential infectee, who owns your sex tape, revenge porn, must you enjoy or endorse all sex acts, are public spaces sex spaces, does gay kink have a place in public pride parades, are parents allowed to introduce their kids to fetish or sexual behaviours when their kids are too young to consent, what age should minors have access to internet, should libraries be hosting sexualised content, does the library have equal opportunity for others to express themselves and share their values, should a library be prosecuted for enabling kiddie fiddling, what age should schools be introducing sexual topics, must schools teach the same syllabus, must places or worship host LGBTQ folks, must LGBTQ folks host religious views.
    There are a host of topics and discussions and whilst you might have no opinions, or can express them in a masterly way, I think you will find it impossible to please everyone and not offend someone.

    So are there any topics or utterances so far that you think should be a criminal offense ?
    Are there any other issues you had in mind in this area ?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by ianlfc View Post
      A comedian called Andrew Lawrence (never heard of him) has been banned from twitter and dropped from gigs for saying , "All I'm saying is,the white guys scored "
      He's a bloody comedian !!
      Hes a ginger comedian.

      Comedy and mockery are the enemy of authority.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by TheDOC1979 View Post
        Has he actually?

        Twitter is a bit of a joke if you ask me. Banned someone for calling someone a she when they wanted to be called “they” banned me for 6 days for calling Mark Rufallo a pansy for retracting his statement about the Palestinian conflict.
        Lad I know was banned for calling a friend of his a donkey

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        • #49
          The chief of Irish basketball has been sacked for posting Black dives matter in regards of Reheem Sterling in the semi final.
          Typical Irish,they're all the same!!

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          • #50
            I got banned from Facebook for using a nickname rather than my real name.
            I just wanted to avoid posts from people I do not want to hear from.
            I hardly ever posted and certainly nothing in the least bit controversial.
            Just wanted my close friends to be able to send me pictures etc.
            No explanation from Facebook really apart from accusing me of impersonating someone else.
            They acted really quickly!
            I moved to whatapp!
            Owned by Facebook!
            No problems!

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            • #51
              There use to be a time when jokes were allowed and they were seen as jokes. now everything gets nit picked.. Everything is ultra sensitive. You should be able to joke about anything win in reason. doesn't make you a "racist".Only people suggesting its inappropriate, are people who have told jokes themselves in the past that are considered a no go area.
              yet they take the moral high ground.They are huge hypocrites.
              Most people accept others has human beings with rights like everyone else..The magnifying glass approach right now is not achieving anything.You will never stop far right openly racist bigots. Its being labelled in the same bracket when you are seen has doing something against the norm that's what's destroying everything.

              I don''t know anyone that is racist and anti someone's skin colour. I can say thats true for most people family and friends.
              And i understand the kneeling in solidarity before games.I just think it should end now and we should focus on getting the racists arrested and dealt with by the law. Go after the real culprits
              Cleaning up the Scots since the 13th century

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              • #52
                Originally posted by justme View Post
                There use to be a time when jokes were allowed and they were seen as jokes. now everything gets nit picked.. Everything is ultra sensitive. You should be able to joke about anything win in reason. doesn't make you a "racist".Only people suggesting its inappropriate, are people who have told jokes themselves in the past that are considered a no go area.
                yet they take the moral high ground.They are huge hypocrites.
                Most people accept others has human beings with rights like everyone else..The magnifying glass approach right now is not achieving anything.You will never stop far right openly racist bigots. Its being labelled in the same bracket when you are seen has doing something against the norm that's what's destroying everything.

                I don''t know anyone that is racist and anti someone's skin colour. I can say thats true for most people family and friends.
                And i understand the kneeling in solidarity before games.I just think it should end now and we should focus on getting the racists arrested and dealt with by the law. Go after the real culprits
                Disagree Justme.
                England is full of closet racists with their tongues tied owing to EU employment rules.
                Expect more to come out of the closet post Brexit
                regarding jokes..
                Some people have big chins but for others there is no way of knowing what effect that has on their personality.
                People may think they should laugh it off.
                Maybe those people think they laugh it off and they are 'a good old boy with a sense of humour'
                No-one really knows what that person takes home
                I have worked many places where there is always a class A bigot as per Alf Garnett.
                They all say ' yes he's racist but at least he admits it'
                The anti-racist people find him funny on that basis.
                Does that make it ok?
                Does that make them ok?

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                • #53
                  This is what is wrong with the world^^ the UK is least racist country on earth. But that doesnt seem to matter..when facts are involved. anyway moving on
                  Cleaning up the Scots since the 13th century

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by justme View Post
                    This is what is wrong with the world^^ the UK is least racist country on earth. But that doesnt seem to matter..when facts are involved. anyway moving on
                    What facts?
                    Not moving on Justme!
                    You are like BJ.
                    Have you never met that sub-culture that persists behind the scenes in the UK?
                    Today BJ will denounce racism in the UK.
                    Do you admire his stand?
                    Are you aware of his ridiculous comments in what he apparently wants to commit to his past?

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                    • #55
                      Personally I think players standing shoulder to shoulder linking arms would be more unique and powerful than anything linked with the BLM movement.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by ianlfc View Post
                        Personally I think players standing shoulder to shoulder linking arms would be more unique and powerful than anything linked with the BLM movement.
                        Are you aware of the 'dormant' English sub- culture that persists in english culture?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by scientificred View Post
                          What facts?
                          Not moving on Justme!
                          You are like BJ.
                          Have you never met that sub-culture that persists behind the scenes in the UK?
                          Today BJ will denounce racism in the UK.
                          Do you admire his stand?
                          Are you aware of his ridiculous comments in what he apparently wants to commit to his past?
                          yeah i like Doris"". The Canadian Prime minister blackend his face several times. Hes not considered a racist in this day and age. he gets over looked because hes part of the chosen people who arent classed racist.

                          Again. there are FAR worse racist countries on earth, The eastern block. the middle east African nations. China is the worse nation on earth when it comes to racism against black people. and so on.
                          You will always get bigots. But when it comes to the UK. there are a tiny minority.. if you wanna disagree so be it
                          Cleaning up the Scots since the 13th century

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by scientificred View Post
                            Are you aware of the 'dormant' English sub- culture that persists in english culture?
                            I find that to be racist "English culture" <-- wait your one of the permitted few because your in the right
                            Cleaning up the Scots since the 13th century

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by justme View Post
                              yeah i like Doris"". The Canadian Prime minister blackend his face several times. Hes not considered a racist in this day and age. he gets over looked because hes part of the chosen people who arent classed racist.

                              Again. there are FAR worse racist countries on earth, The eastern block. the middle east African nations. China is the worse nation on earth when it comes to racism against black people. and so on.
                              You will always get bigots. But when it comes to the UK. there are a tiny minority.. if you wanna disagree so be it
                              Cannot comment properly on those countries you mention.
                              I do not agree that they are a tiny minority in the uk. They just remain publicly silent mostly, whilst there racism incubates.
                              Anyone who voted for BJ would tend towards that view IMHO.

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                              • #60
                                So everyone should have voted for the marxist labour party whos leader was Corbyn a man that allows anti semetic in his party? (i dont vote by the way)
                                Cleaning up the Scots since the 13th century

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