Brexit thread 2 Electric Boogaloo

[CCTV]

I wasn't suggesting he's a pussy for not going into Iran. But he'll look like one if he keeps posturing and bragging and threatening and then not going in. Just be cool. You'll get your peace prize just like Barack did.

A while back I mentioned a list of seven countries allegedly leaked by a retired US general, it included Iraq and Afghanistan. This was before Libya and Syria but it mentioned those, and so it came to pass, also on the list were Iran and Sudan? I think. But sure enough they have been slowly but surely ticking them off one by one...

But he'll look like one if he keeps posturing and bragging and threatening and then not going in.

I can see where this idea can come from but imo it doesnt really hold in this particular situation.

He's got the worlds biggest military behind him ,an expanded budget voted for even by Democrats. The dems have presented him as a mad-man like Hitler and given him a bigger military budget, which doesnt add up in theory. Giving the mad man more guns. The profiteering of arms manufacturers is in favour of war, the left wing media is in favour of war, while fox has plenty of pro-war in Iran commentators. Tucker Carlson is an anomaly.

If Iran called his bluff then hed be backed into a corner over it. But everyone in the institutional corner behind him is practically calling for war.
It's not a great position for Iran to be calling his bluff.

Add to this your own post citing 7 countries that are on a list for privatised central banking as is often posited in relation to those countries in addition to resource access and the picture is rather bleak for the Iranians. They and north korea are really relying on international assistance from Russia and China as their partners.

So for me looking weak and having these nations call his bluff is sensible in theory but not applicable in reality.

[stevie harkness]

Not really sure I understand you CCTV but I sense you disagree!

I wasn't thinking Iran would call his bluff, just that his playground posturing limits his options and makes him easier to manipulate. And with other tensions, North Korea, China etc

Something's not right. He launched an airstrike on Iran and the pilots were ten minutes from their target and then he said oh hang on a minute how many will die? Bullshit! That was an actual news story. Maybe it was more for the folks back home, they're probably gullible enough to believe it.

[Nineteenx]

Speaking of guns, Christ knows why the U.S haven't introduced a system of each gun manufactured being fired once and it's ballistic finger print being put on to a database prior to them being sold, it'd solve a fuck load of issues and lower gun crime. People would be a fuck site more hesitant about gunning people down and making sure their guns were all accounted for if they knew it's 'fingerprint' was on a national database. I'd even go further and make the registered owner responsible if their weapon was used in an incident

[RedNoodle]

Speaking of guns, Christ knows why the U.S haven't introduced a system of each gun manufactured being fired once and it's ballistic finger print being put on to a database prior to them being sold, it'd solve a fuck load of issues and lower gun crime. People would be a fuck site more hesitant about gunning people down and making sure their guns were all accounted for if they knew it's 'fingerprint' was on a national database. I'd even go further and make the registered owner responsible if their weapon was used in an incident

That would cost the arms manufacturers time, and more importantly money. Wifh that being the case don't go expecting them (and those in their pockets) to impliment such a thing anytime soon. I often feel unsafe as it is with the continual increase in knife crime. Who knows how bad it/I would be if we were like the US.

[CCTV]

That would cost the arms manufacturers time, and more importantly money. Wifh that being the case don't go expecting them (and those in their pockets) to impliment such a thing anytime soon. I often feel unsafe as it is with the continual increase in knife crime. Who knows how bad it/I would be if we were like the US.

That proposal from 19 wouldn't work. Might catch the dumb crooks at first but they'd get wise soon. Too easy to tamper with the barrel markings.

In 2017 the total number of deaths by firearms in the USA was just under 40,000. 60% or 24,000 of those are suidicides. If Ireland today had the USA population wed have 32,000 suicides a year without guns. UK at a rough estimate would be 28,000. Overall USA has a suicide rate of 45,000.

While in the last decade we've a gun murder rate about 6 times greater than the UK. But not on Americas level due to access and inequality as measured by the Gini Coefficient
The gini coefficient again an indicator of why the USA has a higher suicide rate.

[Balinkay]

@CC

That was the coefficient that measures how much someone is annoyed that they're well off but the neighbour is better off?

@Noods

Is knife crime really that bad in the UK? And what is being / do you think should be done to fix it? Was just in London last week and the mate I was visiting told me there were relatively central places he'd be scared to walk around it past 10 or so o'clock. Now I know life in provincial Germany has spoiled me (wouldn't be scared to walk home through the unlit park next to my abode completely pissed in the middle of nigh) and you can't really make a big city feel as safe as a small one, but surely that's a pressing issue for the supposed capital of the financial world?

[CCTV]

@CC

That was the coefficient that measures how much someone is annoyed that they're well off but the neighbour is better off?

@Noods

Is knife crime really that bad in the UK? And what is being / do you think should be done to fix it? Was just in London last week and the mate I was visiting told me there were relatively central places he'd be scared to walk around it past 10 or so o'clock. Now I know life in provincial Germany has spoiled me (wouldn't be scared to walk home through the unlit park next to my abode completely pissed in the middle of nigh) and you can't really make a big city feel as safe as a small one, but surely that's a pressing issue for the supposed capital of the financial world?

1) Not how I'd put it, but yes the bom bom bom bom bom bom Gini coefficient is the common measure.

2) for a computer nerd you're lazy

While German knife crime has increased 900% in the last decade, according to one likely right wing source. London's knife crime with injury rates exceed the entire country of Germanys.

London is now approaching a homicide rate equivalent to New York. New York is still ahead but has been decreasing the murder rate over the last 2 decades significantly. London on the up.
While London is out there as one of, if not the most common acid attack regions in the world, according to survivor groups stats.

[stevie harkness]

I saw one report trying to put a lot of knife crime down to gangs. Gang on gang violence is one thing, but a gang initiation test of stabbing the next random passer by is fking sick.

The Pomeroy train stabbing was horrific, stabbing an unarmed man in self defence? On camera. And pleading manslaughter. With a straight face. I mean who carries a knife? Keys, wallet, phone, oh hang on I forgot my blade

[Balinkay]

2) for a computer nerd you're lazy

You have no idea. It's a gift.

Here though I wanted to hear how someone who lives in the country feels. I know it's statistically really bad and have heard the NY comparison more than once before.

[CCTV]

Deutsche bank not looking good and a developing story. While our new, to be head of the ECB played her part in getting Venezuela to give up Assange for IMF loans which she has stepped away from in order to come to the ECB.

[Nineteenx]

I saw one report trying to put a lot of knife crime down to gangs. Gang on gang violence is one thing, but a gang initiation test of stabbing the next random passer by is fking sick.

The Pomeroy train stabbing was horrific, stabbing an unarmed man in self defence? On camera. And pleading manslaughter. With a straight face. I mean who carries a knife? Keys, wallet, phone, oh hang on I forgot my blade

Violent crime is just another knock on effect of Reganomics, I hated how the Tories followed the dangerous broken American model literally from the moment I could see it happening as a young teen. I remember that time coincided with American Donahue style shows first appearing on UK TV, it was always pretty logical to me even as a 12 year old, looking at programs like that, seeing elements of their society and the different additional tiers in it caused by it that we didn't really have or were very rare that following such an obviously broken model would lead to the same problems developing in our society.

There were loads of things that were obvious, excuse for privatisation, "It's not cost effective to be owned and run by the state loses lots of money and is costing the tax payer too much" oh really? So, this business that loses so much money and is impossible to run profitably when all the profits are going back to the state is going to attract loads of investors who'll all be looking for significant returns on their investments? Yes of course it's impossible for it to make money and completely unworkable. Just makes no sense whatsoever, it's an obvious lie, like David Kelly's alleged suicide. You just look at it, man charged with doing WMD reports on Iraq, put under incredible pressure to say there were or potentially were, sticks to his morals and principals and reveals there is no evidence of any at all, then tops himself? Such an obvious lie, had Kelly lied to support a false and illegal war, then topped himself following the aftermath of his actions, you could think, maybe, but it's so ridiculous.

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair's government set up the Hutton Inquiry, a public inquiry into the circumstances surrounding Kelly's death. The inquiry concluded that Kelly had committed suicide, with the cause of death as "haemorrhage due to incised wounds of the left wrist" in combination with "coproxamol ingestion and coronary artery atherosclerosis". Lord Hutton also decided that evidence related to the death, including the post-mortem report and photographs of the body, should remain classified for seventy years

[Balinkay]

Deutsche bank not looking good and a developing story. While our new, to be head of the ECB played her part in getting Venezuela to give up Assange for IMF loans which she has stepped away from in order to come to the ECB.

What did Deutsche Bank do this time?

[CCTV]

What did Deutsche Bank do this time?

Well outside of say criminal banking its constantly been looked at as the most volatile and risky big bank going. Share prices collapsed and potentially the next Lehman brothers. No banker obviously, but it would seem the Brits and yanks cleaned out their issues far better than the eu going off articles/reports

What do you make of the EU's top brass ?

[Balinkay]

Don't really know much about them - would assume they're about as corrupt as anyone else.

[redebreck]

Don't really know much about them - would assume they're about as corrupt as anyone else.

some say far more corrupt