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Thread: Darwin Nunez

  1. #431
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianlfc View Post
    Apparently he's taking the number 9 for next season, he's not even close to previous number 9's but he's young and I'll give him the benefit of a in different first season. But he's big boots to fill following Bobby.
    He improved in his second season at Benfica.

    20/21
    Played 44, Scored 14, assisted 12, 2,773 minutes.
    Goal or Assist per 106.7 minutes

    21/22
    Played 41, Scored 34, assisted 5, assisted 5, 2,821 minutes.
    Goal or assist per 72.3 minutes

    Lfc 22/23
    Played 42, Scored 15, assisted 4, 2,365 minutes.
    Goal or assist per 124.5 minutes.

    If he has a similar second season improvement at LFC as he did at Benfica, he'll get down to a Goal-or-Assist per 84.4 minutes.

    If he played Salah level of minutes next season, Salah played 4,301 minutes this year (scoring 30 assisting 16 all comps) he'd have 51 Goal-or-Assist contributions next year at this improved rate.

    At his current per minute rate, playing Salah level of minutes next year, he'd have 34-35 Goal-or-Assist contributions.He needs to improve (think he will) needs to play more minutes too

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    Halaand had a Goal-or-Assist every 67.7 minutes this year.

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    Mbappe had a Goal-or-Assist every 68.5 minutes this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    He needs to improve (think he will) needs to play more minutes too
    He needs coaching and other players coaching to make certain actions and movements to get the most out of him and actually improve our overall play and movement in the process

    I don't know about anyone else, but from the games I saw him in prior to our signing him, it was pretty clear he could offer a real threat released 1v1 against or in behind full backs on either side and from crosses and balls in he had released the player to be able to put in, and read it and followed it up getting in the box through having started the move

    So it seemed pretty clear to me what work needed doing and coordinated with him and other players, quite a lot of work to be fair

    Nunez being far stronger and dropping to win the ball ahead of opposition mids or CBs and quickly lay it off to then turn and be making a run, enabling the player he'd laid the ball off to, to release the player who would put it in rather than Nunez doing it himself - Guardiola managed to work on getting Haaland doing this very well quite quickly, we didn't seem to make any progress on it at all

    He needs educating on his movement and getting himself set being able to win aerial duels ahead of defenders outside of the box to keep us in possession and when doing enough to stop them making an effective clearance and immediately be looking to make a run for when we pick up the second ball too, he's not nearly good enough at any of those things to play as a No9 in the Prem

    On releasing him in behind or one v one with opposition full backs, working on that required a lot of coordinated movement, but doing that work will absolutely reap dividends long term, it needs Nunez to always be looking for triggers for him to make inside out runs to either side from central positions and it needs our full backs and/or LFWD and RFWD to make coordinated movement to draw the full back out, when coming short for the ball would actually work for a change

    LFWD/RFWD comes short drawing the full back, Nunez starts runs, LFWD/RFWD gets ball to feet, lays it off backwards to midfielder or full back, to play a first tine ball through the channel or dropped over LFWD/RFWD and the full back they've occupied to release Nunez

    Making Mane's trademark outside in runs off the full back and across or between CBs to meet crosses from right full back or RCM when starting on the left OR go far post to head the ball back across, Mane, Diaz and even Oxlade all grasped this, the latter 2 copying Mane because the opportunity to benefit from it was already a set part of our play

    These are things I consider to be pretty basic things and things that I believed needed doing to get the best from Nunez before he'd kicked a ball for us, I haven't seen any evidence of any of them happening
    "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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    Darwin will wear the no. 9 shirt next season.

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    Excited to see how he progresses this season. He got into some great positions last season with just the finish lacking.

    No reason why he can’t get 15+ prem goals in the coming season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFC-DPG View Post
    Excited to see how he progresses this season. He got into some great positions last season with just the finish lacking.

    No reason why he can’t get 15+ prem goals in the coming season.
    Exactly. I really hope he gets off to a good start, because this boy has got it in there somewhere. I love watching him, however frustrating it can be sometimes...
    Not having one yard sideways and back passing midfielders might help him a tad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by justincredible View Post
    Exactly. I really hope he gets off to a good start, because this boy has got it in there somewhere. I love watching him, however frustrating it can be sometimes...
    Not having one yard sideways and back passing midfielders might help him a tad....
    Unfortunately the Midfielder in question is still with the team as yet.
    Hopefully the Saudhi's don't dwell too much on his armband in the photo with Fabinho,or we may be stuck with him for another season at least.
    Last edited by fagin; 16th July 2023 at 10:26 PM.

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    needs to kick on this season otherwise we'll need another forward too.

    was very frustrating at times

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    Quote Originally Posted by fagin View Post
    Unfortunately the Midfielder in question is still with the team as yet.
    Hopefully the Saudhi's don't dwell too much on his armband in the photo with Fabinho,or we may be stuck with him for another season at least.
    Ah, I don't think too many would complain if Hendo is kept on in a more sparing midfield role, now that we've got new blood in that department, and hopefully another to come pending Fabinho's departure...
    If Hendo stays, JK should definitely take the captain's armband off him. Ridiculous situation with it being constantly passed around between him, Virgil and Milner these last few seasons...
    I'd hand it to big Dom once he cements his place in the side (and he will). Him being captain of his national side, and I'm personally always in favour of a midfielder being captain, purely because they're in the centre of the action and can dictate better from this position....

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