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  • Originally posted by miller0863 View Post
    Klopp to the end of the season to see if he’s feelin it, if he is, fantastic.
    If not, go all out for Enrique
    Wouldn’t be too shabby at all.

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    • Give Klopp a shit ton of money to both put in his pocket, and to spend of the players HE wants, EVERY season. Had that been the case during his time with us, I think he'd still be in charge and not looking as burnt out as he did, never mind that we'd probably have a fair few more trophies in the cabinet.

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      • We’d have 3 more in the cabinet but for FAPGMOL
        "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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        • Just read a sky sports stat there, since May across all the top leagues in Europe Liverpool have conceded more goals than other team. 43 goals. WTF.
          The defining moments in our lives are never planned.

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          • Originally posted by miller0863 View Post
            Klopp to the end of the season to see if he’s feelin it, if he is, fantastic.
            If not, go all out for Enrique
            This

            Given they claimed having a good relationship with one another there’s no reason Klopp couldn’t come back and work with Slot so he understands the importance of the things his attempts to change things have broken and get Hettinga back too
            "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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            • Originally posted by Steveo View Post
              I remember that absolute racket of laughter right around Christmas last year when we were top of the pile. You crowing, and I was still concerened... seemigly with good reason. As the club and almost all of us can see - a single key injury could have ruined it all.. but no... you were shilling and trying to convince the world that the whole thing ran itself, and that FSG were the proper brains behind the success. You mocked the idea we'd hit the wall when Klopp left. Well, look around now. That 'inevitable success' has hit the exact slump I warned you about, proving the gaffer was the heart of the club, not just some knob you swap out.

              There is no contradiction on the squad, Mr. Simpleton. The squad was built on a tight FSG budget, which led to the predictable mess of 2022/23, despite Klopp dragging us to the top after selling his best player! It was only after that failure that Klopp's genius, boosted by a few essential buys, pushed that same core to one last heroic charge. I praised Klopp for coaching them back; I blamed FSG for being tight-fisted. You can't grasp the difference between management and ownership.

              And please, point to any post where I called for Slot to be sacked? You can't, because I've been suggesting the opposite. Just glad everyone can now see you exposed. You fraud.

              You want to talk about 'a funny sentence'? You're the one concocting wild claims! I loathe Arteta, you plum, and I stated he twice finished above Klopp - a manager on a different level - which, as we all know, he did. REALITY. FACT. 2 things CCTV cannot face..

              And he only managed it because he received sufficient backing from your employer that Klopp NEVER DID. This has been my consistent gripe, one I'll take to the grave, and one Klopp himself clearly alluded to in his most recent interview.

              And added to that - something that's clearly triggered the shill - even Slot himself explicitly explained HOW he won the league: by fielding the strongest 11 players left to him by Jürgen Klopp. I understand this triggers you, but the lies, CCTV… the lies. What a shameful, pathetic excuse for a fan you are. The entire forum sees you now for the F$G Fan Boi fraud you are.


              And the claim that I 'worried often' under Jürgen' yes... that's darned right! I was always afraid his genius would be undermined. Handicapped. I watched him have to sell his best player to finance building the team he knew we needed to get to the top, only for him to pull off a miracle and capture three world-class signings who had a near INSTANT impact! That's not good business; that's managerial wizardry making up for boardroom failure.

              The real tragedy is that Klopp only has the one Premier League title. And that's not just down to Pep and City - it's mainly down to the people who, after 15 years of ownership, have still not put in one single penny over the initial debt-clearing £300 million half-price 'steal' they got British football's most successful club for. a pittance..

              You want to know why I 'worried'? Because Klopp was fighting two battles: one on the pitch against one of the world's best managers, and one off the pitch against the relentless, suffocating cheapness of his own owners. That's the hill I'll die on,

              He was a miracle worker, and you're just celebrating the bankers who clipped his wings.

              The final insult for me was seeing a fraud like Arteta overtake his team, from 40 points behind the best manager in the world and a laughing stock.. I was terrified Mikel would take a title on Jurgen's watch.. As it happens Liverpool FC took that second Premier league title before he got his hands on one - and that I put almost entirely down to the genius and miracle work of Jurgen Klopp

              Brass neck.. You've NEVER supported Liverpool FC in your life you bum. You defend owners over the man who gave everything - You joker
              You're a joke.

              I've provided direct quotes, repeatedly, to you explicitly shanking the squad handed over to Slot by Klopp in September 2024.
              You slated it so bad, you blamed FSG for the squad.

              As the season ended, and forced to concede the title to LFC, you then pivoted to all Slot did was pick Jurgen's 11s. And even citing a 10 point winning season over Arsenal & 13 over cituae as proof of the lack of quality in the squad.
              So the squad was no good, then it was Klopps squad, then that squad lacked quality... make your mind up

              Arteta hasn't overtaken Klopp in any real regard. He finished above him in the league, once after a near amazing quad that the squad secured iirc and the other Klopps last season a contestible league based on VAR. Whilst Klopp lost a CL final, he won 3 domestic cups over that time.

              This Arteta period of Klopps reign, was Klopps high spending era at LFC...

              Klopps amazing era/side was built on a pittance net, and that is the Klopp outlook on football. He laughed at the pogba fee and eventually paid similar himself as football finances & fees, exploded.

              Up against a prime pep and cituaes dominance of the PL, LFC have stopped an 8 in a row for Cituae via Klopp & Slot.

              Klopp won a PL title, a CL, a load of domestics, he could have won more cup finals, 2 CL, EL, and 3 more PL titles. Essentially the big title loses to cituae and unique madrid.

              In the quad season, Klopp ultimately came undone in 2 head to heads, cituae near the end of the PL campaign & Real in the CL final. Versus Pep he needed to win, and he lost v Carlo.
              You bemoan that type of squad Klopp was stuck with by the club. As you did when Slot inherited it. You've said for years Klopp ran the squad in to the ground, and never addressed the running stats provided by me.

              Citue dominating the league for almost 8 titles in a row, winning their 1st CL title which they were banned from competing in due to their operations, marginalised as always by steveo...

              https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?310133-Top6-spends-analysed-by-MV-13-14-onwards

              https://forums.lfconline.co.uk/showthread.php?311183-Slot

              There's enough there to show you shitting on Klopp & Slot.

              I defend the owners, Klopp & Slot from you talking absolute bollocks, all the time. You're a bitter gooner ArtetaFamTV..

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              • Brighton are a well run club - so fucking what. The reality is our amazing manager wasn’t backed as well as Arteta despite the obvious need - and from 43 points behind us in 2020 they closed the gap in 3 years to be ahead of us 2022/23 and again in 2023/24.

                This happened after they dropped the self sustaining model and we continued with the buy to let. It culminated in the best manager around walking early.

                “well run” hmm
                In 2020/21 LFC finished on 69 points 3rd to cituae 1st on 86 points. Arsenal on 61 points. +8 points on Arsenal.

                In 2021/22 LFC finished 2nd on 92 points to cituae on 93 points. Arsenal on 69 points. +23 points on Arsenal.

                In 2022/23 LFC finished 5th on 67 points to cituae 1st on 89 points. Arsenal on 84 points. -17 points on Arsenal.

                In 2023/24 LFC finished 3rd on 82 points to cituae 1st on 91 points. Arsenal on 89 points. -7 points on Arsenal.

                Thats the Klopp v Arteta Era in the PL.

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                • "This happened after they dropped the self sustaining model and we continued with the buy to let. It culminated in the best manager around walking early." You know that for a fact,maybe he just wanted a break?

                  Don't think transfer budgets bothered him too much, it's not he's worked at real/psg, I don't think dortmund bankrolled him?

                  Then again i'll leave you to it because you know it all, and obviously everything that's going on inside, and outside the club.

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                  • Henry's Gimp cannot face reality.. hilarious watching him rant and rave while digging himself further into the sod he is surrounded by.

                    We all know how much was spent and how little ours was compared to Arteta but no - the shill wants to bend light.. By his logic Arteta is a giant of a manager, one of the very best there's been to have closed that gap of 40 points on the best manager on the planet so fast..

                    AS for last season. well unfortunately for you...Slot admitted everything I said.. Trigger 1

                    The Club acted accordingly this summer to further back up what I suggested years ago.. Trigger 2


                    The statements on Klopp walking because of the squad are - as usual - being totally taken out of context by the creep. Having to build a squad to compete with City and more recently Arsenal on a sell to buy were absolutely part of what played into his exhaustion. I saw it a few months before he decided to leave which he has since admitted was the Klopp 2.0 summer. And the squad he left had about 12 top level players.. Just about.. not nearly enough to compete on more than one front and in most seasons - go take a look... not nearly enough to win a title.

                    The end for the 'F$G Fan Boi'

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                    • Originally posted by Kev0909 View Post
                      "This happened after they dropped the self sustaining model and we continued with the buy to let. It culminated in the best manager around walking early." You know that for a fact,maybe he just wanted a break?

                      Don't think transfer budgets bothered him too much, it's not he's worked at real/psg, I don't think dortmund bankrolled him?

                      Then again i'll leave you to it because you know it all, and obviously everything that's going on inside, and outside the club.
                      I don't know it for a fact - but it did culminate in him walking early citing exhaustion.


                      Many of you forget - I suggested he would walk "at the end of the season" - in the spring of his penultimate season. We have since found out that in his last summer as manager - as he built what was coined Liverpool 2.0 (Klopp 2.0 really) he had already made up his mind.

                      Many on here scoffed at my suggestion at the time - I remember it well. But I knew what I could see. His body language and his coded words. All pointed to him feeling that he was pulling more than his fair share.

                      When you see the restructuring undertaken by the club in the wake of his departure it would point to just that. Klopp was carrying too much on his shoulders. And this is not made any easier when you have to juggle a squad which doesn't have enough like for like rotational options.

                      I get it - some of you want to actively suggest that Klopp wanted to fight with a handicap.. Well regardless - he did just that.

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                      • A lack of funds to spend on players definitely did bother Klopp. On at least one occasion when he was asked about getting in some more players, Klopp said "It's always nice/good to get in some more players, but such things/decisions are not up to me".

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                        • Slot has to go he simply has to

                          Every time we look like taking a corner and get a win he uses it as a cue to revert to his paupers impression of 19-20 City his massive ego not letting him concede trying to play a way even Guardiola had to give up playing in this league, only nowhere near as well, simply WILL NOT work he HAS to go he is ruining a group of highly talented players and completely destroying our identity and everything but if brilliance Jurgen built into the club for over 9 years
                          "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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                          • Arne Slot tra la la la la
                            Please fuck off Tra la la la la
                            Arne Slot tra la la la la
                            Please fuck off Tra la la la la
                            Arne Slot tra la la la la
                            Please fuck off Tra la la la la
                            Arne Slot tra la la la la
                            Please fuck off Tra la la la la
                            "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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                            • Whatever he achieved last season, was with Klopp’s squad playing with a slightly tweaked Klopp system.

                              This season he’s persuaded players to join us on the back of having the perfect plan for them.

                              I’d love to know what that was because the players don’t seem to have a clue.

                              That was another very worrying performance and I cannot see him turning it round.
                              "I am the Normal One."

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                              • The tactics are awful and the players aren't fit.

                                Bring back Klopp just to get their fitness up!

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