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  • "Once the players were put in front of you"...?

    No really? What part of the following

    "You can list 'expensive signings' all you want, but the Net Spend data proves Klopp was operating with one hand tied behind his back compared to the investment Arsenal put into their rebuild. Klopp’s squad was running on fumes after winning everything, while Arteta was allowed to spend heavily to refresh. Ignoring that financial handicap is where the real lack of integrity lies."

    Klopp had less than HALF the net spend and as a result the opportunity in the market that Arteta had. WHY? Had he not proved through the incredible use of the Coutinho funds that he could land the players the other top clubs wanted..? A time where we could go toe to toe with City, Chelsea and the Arse for top targets. This opportunity was missed to pay for stands.. Super swift pay back on a cheap as chips - half solution.. This is what resulted in missing out x2 on titles we win with just a little more backing.... Why? when revenues were at record levels? WHY when the value of all Premier league football clubs was rising out of all proportion?

    Why the rush?

    Were F$G broke? So short of funds that they couldn't allow their biggest franchise to pay for its own upgrades over a more reasonable time frame..? NO.. The attitude was - Klopp is a genius and he will get us there or there abouts operating well below the spends of his direct rivals. This results in a shattered boom and bust squad. Mentality drained and legs rinsed to make titles un winnable for rivals - rewarded with puny spends in the market when we needed to go again. A mistake CLEARLY acknowledged this very summer.. THIS is what held him back.. the missing pieces of the puzzle. This is what allowed Arteta to close the huge gap of 43 points on us and overtake us in Klopps last 2 seasons. If not this... Please explain what happened..? Are you suggesting that Klopp went to shit?



    If you refuse to accept the facts - that's cool, nobody expects much less from such an obvious shill.

    And people don't disappear they simply work out that you are a WUM and ignore you. I have tried to engage purely out of sympathy.

    That ends...

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    • I hope klopp takes over another team soon so stevo can fuck off and support them

      Fuck me you're linking that video for the 50th time in 2 days

      One thing I don't like about Slot is the what he says in the press, why is he so open about everything? he's already told everyone best way to play against us, "top 4 target" well no shit it's not the title now is it.
      Last edited by Kev0909; 6 December 2025, 11:46 AM.

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      • Originally posted by LFC-DPG View Post
        Jocky is back to clean up this mess.
        Yeah obviously comes back when we're doing shit to show us that he'\s a true red and top tier.

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        • Originally posted by Kev0909 View Post
          I hope klopp takes over another team soon so stevo can fuck off and support them

          Fuck me you're linking that video for the 50th time in 2 days

          One thing I don't like about Slot is the what he says in the press, why is he so open about everything? he's already told everyone best way to play against us, "top 4 target" well no shit it's not the title now is it.
          Well you know this highlights the confusion on here - One poster is defending Klopp from me - the other is saying I am basically a Jurgen Klopp fan more than a Liverpool fan..

          Hmm.

          Here's the other one kev lad

          Last edited by Steveo; 6 December 2025, 11:57 AM.

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          • I’m with Steveo

            Arsenal

            2 top keepers

            5 senior high quality CBs

            3 quality RBs

            3 quality LBs

            2 quality DMs

            Choice of 6 quality mid

            2 quality 10’s

            3 quality LFWD

            3 quality RFWDs

            3 quality 9s

            Some of this includes players who play several positions but they had incredible strength in depth bought for top money

            That’s what FSG should have backed Jurgen with and built a squad of the same quality and strength in depth
            "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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            • Forgive me if i'm wrong but didn't Klopp say we didn't need to spend at one point and had the option too but didn't bring anyone in whilst running the team into the ground because of the style?

              Don't think it's all on FSG tbh, but klopp can't do any wrong I guess...... he's perfect right?

              Back the manager........ liverpool is bigger than anyone ffs... go support klopp in whatever he's doing instead, suck his dick.

              7 finals, lost 6 is it with us?? tactical genius obviously, has to be one of the worst manager records? not saying he's shit but he's far from perfect still like you make him out to be a greek god, he's nowhere near the likes of ferguson, or kenny etc
              Last edited by Kev0909; 6 December 2025, 12:11 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Kev0909 View Post
                Forgive me if i'm wrong but didn't Klopp say we didn't need to spend at one point and had the option too but didn't bring anyone in whilst running the team into the ground because of the style?

                Don't think it's all on FSG tbh, but klopp can't do any wrong I guess...... he's perfect right?

                Back the manager........ liverpool is bigger than anyone ffs... go support klopp in whatever he's doing instead, suck his dick.

                7 finals, lost 6 is it with us?? tactical genius obviously, has to be one of the worst manager records? not saying he's shit but he's far from perfect still like you make him out to be a greek god, he's nowhere near the likes of ferguson, or kenny etc

                No, Klopp was never perfect kev. I have never said that. He had his issues like any manager.

                As for running players into the ground, which imo he absolutely did do, we all saw it - What choice did he have..? Before we mention Gini's contract... Hendo and Fabinho get another 2 or 3 seasons here if we were not sticking with 2 or 3 sick notes rather than cut our losses and deliver genuine rotation for them. Same with the CB's Virgil went into the title defence season with us - already not too stacked at the back - a senior CB down! Rather than adding security and protecting Virgil who had played EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE GAME across 2 seasons of 97 and 99 points including a CL run and win to the final.... We took away. We sold Lovren - baked the cash and ludicrously relied on the fitness of Joel Matip and Gomez...? WTF??? Something Klopp all but called out as a bonkers. Something I said at the time was NUTS... A title defence with 1.5 reliable CB's. I count Joel and Joe as a halpf... Matip injury record was well documented - he was many seasons a 1 game in 3 player. then you had Gomez.. beyond Injury prone..

                And Klopp ALWAYS says he didn't "need" to spend. He isn't saying I don't want to spend. he was saying that beyond spending a manager had to work with what he has. This is what he did. He defended the club from the very real scrutiny that it was massively outperforming its outlay. That IMO is ultimately what took it's tool on Jurgen.

                As for the rest.. Oh dear Kev... Oh dear ...

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                • Originally posted by Kev0909 View Post
                  Yeah obviously comes back when we're doing shit to show us that he'\s a true red and top tier.
                  Just holding a mirror up Kev. Not my fault if you don’t like what you see.

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                  • Originally posted by LFC-DPG View Post
                    Jocky is back to clean up this mess.
                    You know it

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                    • It is completely depressing g watching Villa v Arsenal and two teams pressing so brilliantly as we did even better for 10 years

                      Until Slot tore up the winning blueprint

                      He needs to go what he has in mind WILL NOT FUCKING WORK in this league
                      "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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                      • Originally posted by Nineteenx View Post
                        It is completely depressing g watching Villa v Arsenal and two teams pressing so brilliantly as we did even better for 10 years

                        Until Slot tore up the winning blueprint

                        He needs to go what he has in mind WILL NOT FUCKING WORK in this league
                        Bit bizarre that he left it a full season, won the league, then decided to tear up the blueprint?

                        Or maybe that’s not what actually happened and you’re in la la land.

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                        • Originally posted by JockStrap View Post
                          Bit bizarre that he left it a full season, won the league, then decided to tear up the blueprint?

                          Or maybe that’s not what actually happened and you’re in la la land.
                          Why do you think we've dropped off massively?
                          The defining moments in our lives are never planned.

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                          • Originally posted by teesred View Post
                            Why do you think we've dropped off massively?
                            Players not performing well enough for many different reasons.

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                            • It might have to turn this game off it’s too depression g watching 2 sides we beat this season have such great pressing and counter pressing and clear patterns of play and movement as we had brilliantly for years until Slot ripping up the winning blueprint
                              "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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                              • Originally posted by Nineteenx View Post
                                It might have to turn this game off it’s too depression g watching 2 sides we beat this season have such great pressing and counter pressing and clear patterns of play and movement as we had brilliantly for years until Slot ripping up the winning blueprint
                                Where was Arsenal’s counter pressing for that Villa goal?

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