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Thread: EFL Cup Final Match Thread: Liverpool v Newcastle

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    Quote Originally Posted by sydenham red View Post
    Highly paid sportspeople shouldn't be able to fast on a matchday and think their available for selection. End of. Add a few xtra days of non matchday fasting onto end of Ramadan if needs be, I'm sure Allah will be satisfied with that. The club should be clear on this, if those players religious beliefs (ridiculous imo) preclude them eating or drinking at crucial times then find a new religion or find a new job/club.

    Whats next - born again Christians not playing on a Sunday.
    So are we all blaming 1 player for today???

    No one played well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiordearg View Post
    there was a rugby player in Ireland who used to refuse to play Sundays
    Was he looking a raise on his current Ł17M salary mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jr81 View Post
    So are we all blaming 1 player for today???

    No one played well..
    No but mo is and has been shite during Ramadan before. Prob a good reason why konate took cramp or whatever in psg game too. Aside from all the starting mids being shattered, and 3 of the other forwards being goal shy we had no chance 2day

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    Quote Originally Posted by sydenham red View Post
    No but mo is and has been shite during Ramadan before. Prob a good reason why konate took cramp or whatever in psg game too. Aside from all the starting mids being shattered, and 3 of the other forwards being goal shy we had no chance 2day
    Yes he has, but so has everyone else. The squad needs improving and the last 2 weeks have shown. Jota is a shell of what he once was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jr81 View Post
    Yes he has, but so has everyone else. The squad needs improving and the last 2 weeks have shown. Jota is a shell of what he once was.
    Jota was the best finisher but now looks lost. I'd presume nunez is gone but jota and Diaz don't have much time left to convince Arne they stay and Chiesa has been overlooked too. However surely we don't sell all 4 and see salah walk too. Gakpo will be feeling very lonely if so

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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    We didn't stop them taking over did we, they owned the club. Fan protests might have had a part in them selling up but if they'd wanted to stick around they would.
    Same with FSG, same with the Glazers. There will be he'll on if Virgil,Trent and Salah are allowed to leave but there's no way it would result in them selling the club.
    We didn't initially know what H&G were going be like. Newcastle fans have no such excuse. Once our fans knew what H&G were like and what they were doing to the club, our fans took action.

    Man Utd's fans are nowhere near as vocal or proactive as ours were and are, and that was even more the case when Man Utd were still picking up trophies such as their last league title when there was barely a peep coming from them about their owners. The Glazers and FSG may be a bunch of gits entirely interested in how much money they can squeeze out of their clubs, but at least they're not a bunch of murderous, human rights deniers.

    If I had to choose between us being owned and run by the likes of FSG, or having the Saudis in charge, I'd rather have the former in charge of my club even if that meant that I'd never get to see us pick up another trophy.

    Unfortunately the days of having big clubs owned and run by a club loving 'local lad done good' is long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMagic View Post
    They didn't do anything to try and stop it either.
    Remember when Newcastle United LGBTQ+ fans group released a statement saying that it -

    “acknowledged that Saudi Arabia as a country is one of the least tolerant of LGBTQ+ and gender rights anywhere in the world”

    ....but that......"it hoped the takeover could lead to “a positive influence to improving the conditions for the LGBTQ+ community in Saudi Arabia”.....?

    So many fans will spread their legs if they think their side will be successful on the pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMagic View Post
    We didn't initially know what H&G were going be like. Newcastle fans have no such excuse. Once our fans knew what H&G were like and what they were doing to the club, our fans took action.

    Man Utd's fans are nowhere near as vocal or proactive as ours were and are, and that was even more the case when Man Utd were still picking up trophies such as their last league title when there was barely a peep coming from them about their owners. The Glazers and FSG may be a bunch of gits entirely interested in how much money they can squeeze out of their clubs, but at least they're not a bunch of murderous, human rights deniers.

    If I had to choose between us being owned and run by the likes of FSG, or having the Saudis in charge, I'd rather have the former in charge of my club even if that meant that I'd never get to see us pick up another trophy.

    Unfortunately the days of having big clubs owned and run by a club loving 'local lad done good' is long gone.
    In Newcastle's defence they'd had Mike Ashley running the club.

    If we all took a stance against Saudi we'd all be walking to work everyday.
    The love United Hate glazer campaign has been going a long,long time. Even whilst they were winning titles. Most of their true fans didn't want anything to do with them because they knew they were just mortgaging the club, definitely more vocal now due to their drop off but it's been there since the off. That's just the fickle nature of football fans though I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Remember when Newcastle United LGBTQ+ fans group released a statement saying that it -

    “acknowledged that Saudi Arabia as a country is one of the least tolerant of LGBTQ+ and gender rights anywhere in the world”

    ....but that......"it hoped the takeover could lead to “a positive influence to improving the conditions for the LGBTQ+ community in Saudi Arabia”.....?

    So many fans will spread their legs if they think their side will be successful on the pitch.
    Exactly. Unfortunately more people than ever are willing to sell their soul for a lot of often blood stained filthy lucre or some form of success. It's just a matter of how much it takes for them to do so.

    It's not just the fans, it also concerns the likes of ex players, pundits, TV stations, newspapers etc who like to virtue signal, but as soon as enough cash is waved in front of their faces their morals go out of the window and they then desperately try to justify their actions or lack of e.g. just like you said, you get events for various sports held in some highly questionable places, run by even more questionable individuals and regimes, and those that benefit try to justify and mask their actions by saying that going to and allowing such events to take place is going to result in positive changes taking place.

    The only changes are those that occur to these selfish shills' bank balances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    The Isak omission for the recent game at Anfield was clearly a tactical move. He was rested. Howe admitted post match that they came to Anfield determined not to show their hand.

    This was a World or European Cup final for them.
    Old ArTITa will be pissed that Howe along with dodgy Tonali threw the league game.

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