Florian Wirtz

[JockStrap]

At least wirtz has proved lately he's not the problem to the doubters, always reasons to be positive.

He could score a hat trick and assist 5 more and you’d still get the same supporters criticising

Exactly. At least the genuises telling us that he'll never make it here are quiet. Until the next game.

[Steveo]

Manager or head coach?

In a traditional setup it would be 'a manager.'. but as there isn't an active manager at all and instead:

Michael Edwards : CEO of Football (Fenway Sports Group)
Scope: Edwards does not work solely for Liverpool FC; he works for the owners (FSG). He sits above the club in the hierarchy.

Richard Hughes : Sporting Director
Scope: Hughes is the primary executive actually working at Liverpool FC on a daily basis. He is the "boss" at the training ground (AXA Training Centre).

Arne Slot : Head Coach
Scope: Unlike Jürgen Klopp, who was a "Manager," Arne Slot is a "Head Coach." This is a crucial distinction.


I suggest there actually is no manager at the moment dues to the complete balls up of a setup. part of the changes that Macca likely alluded to when saying he prefers to keep it to himself. He mentiond players coming and going but the rest was missing.

[JockStrap]

Maybe we could keep the chat about Slot in one of the Slot threads? Instead of spamming each thread with the same crap.

And leave this for Wirtz.

[Steveo]

If that's the case then it suggests that he did absolutely nothing last season to win the Title, which obviously isn't true.

But whatever he is doing this season isn't working. Unless he changes it, he'll end up getting the sack.

The worry I have, is that he's saying that nothing has changed in the way we are playing this season, compared to last, which simply isn't true. Whilst we're still playing 4-2-3-1 the set up, positional play and ball progression is completely different.

I don't agree that we have to go back to playing Kloppball, there's more than one way to skin a cat. But using a big rusty spoon to skin the said cat isn't the best way to do it...

Not really - what he had to do he did well. But perhaps - as he himself suggested - he didn't have that much to do save pick the best players he inherited and play them over and over again, somehow escaping an injury pile up.

AND it looks very much as though - in that transition from heavy metal football to the turgid football we are witnessing now and the lethargy we saw at the back end of last season - the team that Klopp built found a good balance. Enough to win the title in a year when both major rivals were struggling.

I know you don't want to face it.. but that is a likely possibility.

[JockStrap]

Maybe we could keep the chat about Slot in one of the Slot threads? Instead of spamming each thread with the same crap.

And leave this for Wirtz.

[JockStrap]

It's the subtle things. A lovely dink over an onrushing keeper, with his left foot.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you ... The Emperor.

[Steveo]

Maybe we could keep the chat about Slot in one of the Slot threads? Instead of spamming each thread with the same crap.

And leave this for Wirtz.

Says the joker who spoke exclusively about Gakpo, Ekitike, Frimpong and Salah on the last page..


Maybe you should keep quiet..


People are asking questions on this thread about the manager - and about what happened last year ...part of it plays into Wirtz and all the new arrivals as it does the old guard.... 'strange' that you say nowt 'til I answer with what is a likely to be the case and which makes it difficult for you to continue with your script.

[JockStrap]

There are already threads where people can discuss the manager. Do as much of it there as you please.

Keep this one for Wirtz.

[Steveo]

I will answer the questions I am asked in whatever threat they are asked in.. Thank you.

[JockStrap]

The ask is to post Slot conversations in the Slot thread and Wirtz conversations in this thread. I get that's a new idea for you but give it a try.

It is of course your right to be an ignorant prick. You can continue to spam each thread with the same depressing crap. At least until a mod shows up and moves them where they should be.

[miller0863]

Do not presume to tell ANY other Forum member what to do on this Forum.

You infect every single thread with your absolute shilling bull shit. You respond to virtually every post telling the writer they are idiots and you know better.
I have been on here over 20 years and there has never been a less welcome, more nauseating member than you.

You are either doing it deliberately on instruction or you are a complete imbecile with zero football knowledge and even less self awareness.

You went quiet when posters started ignoring you in greater numbers.

I for one, will be going back to that stance. It is pointless debating with a buffoon like you who just automatically says the opposite to the other person, however bizarre your stance.

You Sir are a prize prat of the first water.

[Steveo]

In a nutshell. ^

[JockStrap]

Do not presume to tell ANY other Forum member what to do on this Forum.

You infect every single thread with your absolute shilling bull shit. You respond to virtually every post telling the writer they are idiots and you know better.
I have been on here over 20 years and there has never been a less welcome, more nauseating member than you.

You are either doing it deliberately on instruction or you are a complete imbecile with zero football knowledge and even less self awareness.

You went quiet when posters started ignoring you in greater numbers.

I for one, will be going back to that stance. It is pointless debating with a buffoon like you who just automatically says the opposite to the other person, however bizarre your stance.

You Sir are a prize prat of the first water.

Did you not like the Emperor jab? Is that what it is

You seem to be full of self-importance. I don't care how long you have been here, you're acting like a complete prat. I don't care for your attitude towards me either. So I guess that makes us even. Ignore me if you want.

Let me remind you, it was you who said Wirtz will never make it here. Choking on your own words are you?

It’s ok several on here keep telling me about this wonderful maestro we have who’s getting better every week.

Maybe he’ll come on at half time and save us…

What an absolute load of red tinted glasses, Emperor’s New Clothes bull shit.

Every single player on the pitch in red is currently awful. And there is absolutely zero evidence of any coaching whatsoever.

[JockStrap]

Sorry but it’s a no from me.

Start looking for buyers, he’s not quick enough in thought, strong enough or physically quick enough. He has absolutely nothing we need in the Premier League.

Not the only one not contributing but others have in the past.

And don’t tell me he will get better, he won’t get quicker and he won’t get much stronger. He’s not for the Premier League

Feel I have to say this yet again. Some are still trying to find positives on Florian Wirtz and somehow see his five yard assist as an example of his apparent worth and genius.

He does a lot of running… well jogging as he has zero pace but little else.

You want to see what £100m should buy you for an attacking midfielder look at Cole Palmer or my personal favourite who we should have bought in the summer, Morgan Rogers. Two excellent goal against Man Utd again today and I’m supposed to be happy with a five yard assist as some sorry of proof we have a genius on our hands???

Naaah not for me, he ain’t gonna make it here.

Remember those words.

I have no respect for anything you say, least not on Wirtz.

[Ravo19]

Do not presume to tell ANY other Forum member what to do on this Forum.

You infect every single thread with your absolute shilling bull shit. You respond to virtually every post telling the writer they are idiots and you know better.
I have been on here over 20 years and there has never been a less welcome, more nauseating member than you.

You are either doing it deliberately on instruction or you are a complete imbecile with zero football knowledge and even less self awareness.

You went quiet when posters started ignoring you in greater numbers.

I for one, will be going back to that stance. It is pointless debating with a buffoon like you who just automatically says the opposite to the other person, however bizarre your stance.

You Sir are a prize prat of the first water.

I agree,great idea.