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It's not even about Diaz there is players out there like him, it's the fact we never replaced him and have to watch gakpo play LW every game......Originally posted by LFC-DPG View PostYep, with Diaz’s runs and pace those 2 would be ripping it up. Such a shame we never got to see it.
What a fucking farce
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have to admit wirtz has started to settle in,needs a 3 man midfield behind him to allow him to focus on the attack,play him behind eritikie and salah in a 4 3 1 2 or alonso's 3 4 1 2.
even think gapko would be better as one of 2 attackers.Last edited by Ravo19; 18 January 2026, 10:45 AM.
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It doesn't even need 3 behind him. It just needs the 2 behind him to be positioned better.Originally posted by Ravo19 View Posthave to admit wirtz has started to settle in,needs a 3 man midfield behind him to allow him to focus on the attack,play him behind eritikie and salah in a 4 3 1 2 or alonso's 3 4 1 2.
even think gapko would be better as one of 2 attackers.
If Grav would just sit, rather than marauding forward or Jones and Szobo would stop drifting into wide positions and if Mac would kick his heroin problem...Something, Something, Something, Dark Side
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Slot has tried using a mix of 2 from grav,dom,mac,jones and none have worked.Originally posted by jozza800 View PostIt doesn't even need 3 behind him. It just needs the 2 behind him to be positioned better.
If Grav would just sit, rather than marauding forward or Jones and Szobo would stop drifting into wide positions and if Mac would kick his heroin problem...
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Watching Bernardo Silva at City and seeing him have a free role ,I can see Wirtz playing that role. Picking the ball up from the centre halfs and picking a pass better than any centre half. And as Jozza says, no need for 2 holding midfielders just 1 like Busquets or a Fabinho type. And make it their job.
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We need to sign midfielders on a par with our 1st choice mids (assume the same level we know those 1st choice mids can play at), that's got to happen in the summer if not before. And tough decisions need to be made, to fund some of it you sell chiesa,endo,Jones,Elliott and you sell Gomez and Robertson to partially fund arrival of a new CB/LB utility player. For too long our backup players are way off pushing the starters. And up front gakpo and salah can go too. Are we a 5th or better squad or a PL chasing squad, without a Klopp like leader to drag extra out of the squad we can already see what we are...
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We had the best midfield 3 in the league last season we didn’t need Wirtz
Trying to make all your play go through a designated playmaker is a shit idea on so many levels
Fucking idiots blaming a midfield 3 that won the league that it’s their fault it doesn’t work with an extra unnecessary midfield playmaker removing all our directness and cut and thrust
It’s that simple"If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”
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He’s our worst midfielder this season not on individual ability but simply because we didn’t need him and his presence and Slot’s insistence all the play goes through him are nullifying last seasons Premier Leagues best midfield 3 and preventing them playing at their bestOriginally posted by eggy81 View PostHe’s probably our best midfielder this season in all honesty.
He and the style of play Slot is trying to put in place take away the space last seasons best midfield 3 used to operate in and they’re all expected to try and give the ball to him to make the play rather than do so collectively which massively detracts from the element of being able to score from anywhere created by any number of players
Macca and Szobo were both part of that 3 last season, CCTV claims it was a 4231 it wasn’t I’ve been watching highlights and goals it was a 3 and one of Macca Szobo or Grav moved into the 10 position stringing in the space created by our 2 wide forwards being on the oppositions line Grav mostly through driving it forward a great thing to do in the 433 nullified by Wirtz’s presence
Essentially we have an unnecessary 4th midfielder blocking all the lines and space and stifling the other 3 from doing what they did last season
This also meaning we’re constantly short of a forward and don’t have two wide forwards up pushing the line back creating the space for one or two of our mids to arrive into
Go and watch all the goals from last season, note the directness, note how influential Diaz and Mo were note they’re frequently further forward then the 9 so not a 4231 not one of the 3 mids, sometimes 2 arrive in the space
Note our counter attacks and bring direct when it’s on to be and variation
Just google All Liverpool goals 2024-2025
Watch it stop buying into JokeShop’s shite use your eyes ffs"If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”
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Originally posted by JockStrap View PostLadies and Gentlemen ...
The Emperor

Originally posted by JockStrap View PostIt's the subtle things. A lovely dink over an onrushing keeper, with his left foot.
Originally posted by JockStrap View PostThe Emperor Strikes Back
Good advice to use your own eyes.Originally posted by JockStrap View Post
No need to take my word for anything.
Unbelievable quality. What a bargain this lad will turn out to be.Last edited by JockStrap; 18 January 2026, 06:12 PM.
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Watch last season’s goals you numpties
It’s Wirtz presence with the new style inhibiting our attacking play
I’ll fire the laptop up later and post it here
Originally posted by Nineteenx View PostHe’s our worst midfielder this season not on individual ability but simply because we didn’t need him and his presence and Slot’s insistence all the play goes through him are nullifying last seasons Premier Leagues best midfield 3 and preventing them playing at their best
He and the style of play Slot is trying to put in place take away the space last seasons best midfield 3 used to operate in and they’re all expected to try and give the ball to him to make the play rather than do so collectively which massively detracts from the element of being able to score from anywhere created by any number of players
Macca and Szobo were both part of that 3 last season, CCTV claims it was a 4231 it wasn’t I’ve been watching highlights and goals it was a 3 and one of Macca Szobo or Grav moved into the 10 position stringing in the space created by our 2 wide forwards being on the oppositions line Grav mostly through driving it forward a great thing to do in the 433 nullified by Wirtz’s presence
Essentially we have an unnecessary 4th midfielder blocking all the lines and space and stifling the other 3 from doing what they did last season
This also meaning we’re constantly short of a forward and don’t have two wide forwards up pushing the line back creating the space for one or two of our mids to arrive into
Go and watch all the goals from last season, note the directness, note how influential Diaz and Mo were note they’re frequently further forward then the 9 so not a 4231 not one of the 3 mids, sometimes 2 arrive in the space
Note our counter attacks and bring direct when it’s on to be and variation
Just google All Liverpool goals 2024-2025
Watch it stop buying into JokeShop’s shite use your eyes ffs"If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”
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