Florian Wirtz

[Nineteenx]

He’s a great player that doesn’t fit how the rest of the team played to win the league

We didn’t need him and he and he alone massively inhibits us playing as we did to win the league

We create nothing we don’t release players to stretch their defence in every clip there are loads of defenders crowding the box we’re not cutting through them and creating goals and chances as we have done in abundance for 10 years prior

[Nineteenx]

we had the best midfield THREE in the league last season and won it They move from that THREE in game for Macca or Szobo or both to arrive in a 10 position they can’t do that with a 10 already in that space

Jesus wept go back and watch our goals last season

Stop berating title winning players because a system change and playing with a designated 10 and a forward short as a result is buggering everything up

[JockStrap]

If only there was a thread where you could post your grievances about the alleged system change.

Oh that's right, there are about half a dozen. Pick one and post your dribble in it.

This thread is for the wizard that is Florian Wirtz

[CCTV]

Well I'd suggest MacA has clearly had the worst season of our 5 midfielders. The only one of them having a poor season himself.

1) Grav
2) Sobozla
3) Wirtz
4) Jones
5) MacA

[Nineteenx]

This belongs here so those who can't remember how we played and why it worked can compare our goals and play last season to the dross they're suffering this season with the change of formation and style of play

Watch the playing style, the cut and thrust, how our short balls last season are 10-15 yards how Szobo or Macca or both move into the space created by our front three pushing their defence back. Watch how we score from nicking it in the press and counter press and on the counter, all Klopp play

Please stop bashing our title winning players for issues caused purely and simply by a formation change and style of play change and trying to make Wirtz a designated playmaker like it's the 90's

[JockStrap]

No need for the same post in multiple places. If people care enough about your opinion they'll post on the thread you just started.

This thread is for the wizard that is Florian Wirtz.

[JockStrap]

By the way, how good was Wirtz for the chance that Gakpo had cleared off the line?

[Nineteenx]

If you look at last season the formation and style change is absolutely killing the other players, they are all clearly under instruction to give Wirtz the ball hes bound to create something but Diaz was creating more from LFWD last season on his own without being a designated playmaker

WIrtz is a fine player in a lower paced league in which he's used as just another player and joins and links the play when it comes his way, not with every player under clear instruction to constantly give it him

Szobo isn't happy about it, read between the lines when asked about his goal v Bradford "Yeah I was in my position check last seasons goals we have a midfield 3 and Szobo or Macca move from there to a 10 position or both of them to make 2 10's when Grav does it by driving forward, watch Szobo and Macca pick up ready for the counter press

[Nineteenx]

No need for the same post in multiple places.

There's a need for it where it has relevance, so those that don't have the memory of how we played last season under Slot and without Wirtz can view how we did, have a refresher and realise the truth and that SLot has lost the plot and needs to go and a manager who will have THE TEAM play as they did last season albeit without Diaz brought in

[JockStrap]

Nah Wirtz is a class player in this league. One of the best young players in the world and a pure delight to watch.

If you can't enjoy watching Wirtz play for LFC you're in the wrong game.

[JockStrap]

There's a need for it where it has relevance, so those that don't have the memory of how we played last season under Slot and without Wirtz can view how we did, have a refresher and realise the truth and that SLot has lost the plot and needs to go and a manager who will have THE TEAM play as they did last season albeit without Diaz brought in

That's why you started a thread. No need to spam every other thread.

[Nineteenx]

It's in two threads in which it has great relevance to what I being discussed and allows posters the visuals to compare to the talking points, to compare how we played last season to this and not have shit talking wums like you or CCTV gaslighting them

[jozza800]

Well I'd suggest MacA has clearly had the worst season of our 5 midfielders. The only one of them having a poor season himself.

1) Grav
2) Sobozla
3) Wirtz
4) Jones
5) MacA

I think this is fair (though you could swap any of the top 4). Think all the midfielders have been OK and Szobo has been good. Mac however has been shocking all season.

Though our problems aren't down to him alone. But I think he's been our worst player this season.

The shape of the midfield has just been wrong all season and has caused an overall issue.

[Nineteenx]

I think this is fair (though you could swap any of the top 4). Think all the midfielders have been OK and Szobo has been good. Mac however has been shocking all season.

Though our problems aren't down to him alone. But I think he's been our worst player this season.

The shape of the midfield has just been wrong all season and has caused an overall issue.

Our problems are down to Slot and Wirtz - He bought a player we didn't need while selling our player of last season Diaz

Ripped up the blueprint we won the league with and had played for years and set about trying to make all the existing players and the team revolve around Wirtz

Wirtz is our worst players as if he had never come here we would not be having any of these issues, we'd be carrying on where we left off last season

[JockStrap]

Our problems are down to Slot and Wirtz

Quoting this. Maybe I'll put it in my signature.

Though which one do I choose?

Wirtz is our worst player